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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: Hyeonggon Yoo <hyeonggon.yoo@sk.com>,
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Subject: Re: [External Mail] [RFC PATCH v2] Weighted interleave auto-tuning
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:48:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikr8abhn.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z2hGWoqZqwxJC4gM@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (Gregory Price's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:03:22 -0500")

Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:

> On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 03:21:32PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Hyeonggon Yoo <hyeonggon.yoo@sk.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On this server, ideally weighted interleaving should be configured
>> > within a socket (e.g. local NUMA node + local CXL node) because
>> > weighted interleaving does not consider the bandwidth when accessed
>> > from a remote socket.
>> 
>> If multiple sockets are considered, what is the best behavior?
>> 
>> The process may be cross-socket too.  So, we will need to use
>> set_mempolicy() to bind tasks to sockets firstly.  Then, it may be
>> better to use per-task weights.
>>
>
> If we want to revisit this, we might be able to make task-local weights
> work without a new syscall, but the use case was not clear enough which
> is why it was soft-nak'd originally.

Yes.  That is doable.  However, the challenge is lacking use cases.  I
guess that we can wait for more use cases?

> vma-local weights are arguably more usable, but require the task to be
> numa-aware and probably require a new mempolicy syscall because mbind
> has no remaining arguments.
>
> recall my original testing results from stream:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240202170238.90004-1-gregory.price@memverge.com/
>
> Stream Benchmark (vs DRAM, 1 Socket + 1 CXL Device)
> Default interleave : -78% (slower than DRAM)
> Global weighting   : -6% to +4% (workload dependant)
> Targeted weights   : +2.5% to +4% (consistently better than DRAM)

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


      reply	other threads:[~2024-12-24 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-19 19:18 Joshua Hahn
2024-12-20  8:25 ` [External Mail] " Hyeonggon Yoo
2024-12-20 14:13   ` Gregory Price
2024-12-22  7:21   ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-22 17:03     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-24 23:48       ` Huang, Ying [this message]

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