From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
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"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
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rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 8/8] task: rust: rework how current is accessed
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:24:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frlke5ns.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgh6J41JkaD23_Br6nLkznAfzaivVY=xRpr1jzpUZNZgKA@mail.gmail.com> (Alice Ryhl's message of "Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:26:42 +0100")
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:42 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 3:51 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>> >> > + #[inline]
>> >> > + pub fn active_pid_ns(&self) -> Option<&PidNamespace> {
>> >> > + // SAFETY: It is safe to call `task_active_pid_ns` without RCU protection when calling it
>> >> > + // on the current task.
>> >> > + let active_ns = unsafe { bindings::task_active_pid_ns(self.as_ptr()) };
>> >> > +
>> >> > + if active_ns.is_null() {
>> >> > + return None;
>> >> > + }
>> >> > +
>> >> > + // The lifetime of `PidNamespace` is bound to `Task` and `struct pid`.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // The `PidNamespace` of a `Task` doesn't ever change once the `Task` is alive. A
>> >> > + // `unshare(CLONE_NEWPID)` or `setns(fd_pidns/pidfd, CLONE_NEWPID)` will not have an effect
>> >> > + // on the calling `Task`'s pid namespace. It will only effect the pid namespace of children
>> >> > + // created by the calling `Task`. This invariant guarantees that after having acquired a
>> >> > + // reference to a `Task`'s pid namespace it will remain unchanged.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // When a task has exited and been reaped `release_task()` will be called. This will set
>> >> > + // the `PidNamespace` of the task to `NULL`. So retrieving the `PidNamespace` of a task
>> >> > + // that is dead will return `NULL`. Note, that neither holding the RCU lock nor holding a
>> >> > + // referencing count to the `Task` will prevent `release_task()` being called.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // In order to retrieve the `PidNamespace` of a `Task` the `task_active_pid_ns()` function
>> >> > + // can be used. There are two cases to consider:
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // (1) retrieving the `PidNamespace` of the `current` task
>> >> > + // (2) retrieving the `PidNamespace` of a non-`current` task
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // From system call context retrieving the `PidNamespace` for case (1) is always safe and
>> >> > + // requires neither RCU locking nor a reference count to be held. Retrieving the
>> >> > + // `PidNamespace` after `release_task()` for current will return `NULL` but no codepath
>> >> > + // like that is exposed to Rust.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // Retrieving the `PidNamespace` from system call context for (2) requires RCU protection.
>> >> > + // Accessing `PidNamespace` outside of RCU protection requires a reference count that
>> >> > + // must've been acquired while holding the RCU lock. Note that accessing a non-`current`
>> >> > + // task means `NULL` can be returned as the non-`current` task could have already passed
>> >> > + // through `release_task()`.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // To retrieve (1) the `&CurrentTask` type should be used which ensures that the returned
>> >> > + // `PidNamespace` cannot outlive the current task context. The `CurrentTask::active_pid_ns`
>> >> > + // function allows Rust to handle the common case of accessing `current`'s `PidNamespace`
>> >> > + // without RCU protection and without having to acquire a reference count.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // For (2) the `task_get_pid_ns()` method must be used. This will always acquire a
>> >> > + // reference on `PidNamespace` and will return an `Option` to force the caller to
>> >> > + // explicitly handle the case where `PidNamespace` is `None`, something that tends to be
>> >> > + // forgotten when doing the equivalent operation in `C`. Missing RCU primitives make it
>> >> > + // difficult to perform operations that are otherwise safe without holding a reference
>> >> > + // count as long as RCU protection is guaranteed. But it is not important currently. But we
>> >> > + // do want it in the future.
>> >> > + //
>> >> > + // Note for (2) the required RCU protection around calling `task_active_pid_ns()`
>> >> > + // synchronizes against putting the last reference of the associated `struct pid` of
>> >> > + // `task->thread_pid`. The `struct pid` stored in that field is used to retrieve the
>> >> > + // `PidNamespace` of the caller. When `release_task()` is called `task->thread_pid` will be
>> >> > + // `NULL`ed and `put_pid()` on said `struct pid` will be delayed in `free_pid()` via
>> >> > + // `call_rcu()` allowing everyone with an RCU protected access to the `struct pid` acquired
>> >> > + // from `task->thread_pid` to finish.
>> >>
>> >> While this comment is a nice piece of documentation, I think we should
>> >> move it elsewhere, or restrict it to paragraphs pertaining to (1), since
>> >> that is the only case we consider here?
>> >
>> > Where would you move it?
>>
>> The info about (2) should probably be with the implementation for that
>> case, when it lands. Perhaps we can move it hen?
>
> The function already exists. It's called Task::get_pid_ns(). I think
> the comment makes sense here: get_pid_ns() is the normal case where
> you don't skip synchronization, and active_pid_ns() is the special
> case where you can skip RCU due to reasons. This comment explains that
> normally you cannot skip RCU, but in this special case you can.
Reading this again I think it should simply be cut down in size:
```
The lifetime of `PidNamespace` is bound to `Task` and `struct pid`.
The `PidNamespace` of a `Task` doesn't ever change once the `Task` is alive.
From system call context retrieving the `PidNamespace` for the current
task is always safe and requires neither RCU locking nor a reference
count to be held. Retrieving the `PidNamespace` after `release_task()`
for current will return `NULL` but no codepath like that is exposed to
Rust.
```
The rest is not relevant to this function and it does not help
understanding the function.
Another thought - add a link to `get_pid_ns`:
@@ -307,6 +307,8 @@ pub fn mm(&self) -> Option<&MmWithUser> {
/// Access the pid namespace of the current task.
///
/// This function does not touch the refcount of the namespace or use RCU protection.
+ ///
+ /// To access the pid namespace of another task, see [`Task::get_pid_ns`].
#[doc(alias = "task_active_pid_ns")]
#[inline]
pub fn active_pid_ns(&self) -> Option<&PidNamespace> {
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
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2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Rust support for mm_struct, vm_area_struct, and mmap Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] mm: rust: add abstraction for struct mm_struct Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 11:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 9:53 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 1:54 ` John Hubbard
2025-01-15 12:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 10:36 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-15 20:20 ` John Hubbard
2025-01-17 0:45 ` Balbir Singh
2025-01-17 12:47 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] mm: rust: add vm_area_struct methods that require read access Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:12 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:21 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:02 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-09 8:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-09 9:50 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-09 11:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-09 15:32 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 14:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 9:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 11:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 13:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 11:02 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-15 11:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] mm: rust: add vm_insert_page Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:25 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:33 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] mm: rust: add lock_vma_under_rcu Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] mm: rust: add mmput_async support Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:10 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] mm: rust: add VmAreaNew for f_ops->mmap() Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:23 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:19 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 9:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:24 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:23 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-10 13:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-10 16:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] rust: miscdevice: add mmap support Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:53 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] task: rust: rework how current is accessed Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 14:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:32 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:42 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 10:24 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2024-12-16 23:40 ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-13 10:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-12-11 10:47 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Rust support for mm_struct, vm_area_struct, and mmap Alice Ryhl
2024-12-12 14:47 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-12-13 14:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 14:47 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-12-16 11:04 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 11:46 ` Alice Ryhl
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