From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
mingo@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
paulmck@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
jon.grimm@amd.com, bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:59:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fri9w0g2.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z_1raKrmWzXIZ0G_@casper.infradead.org>
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:52:37PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> writes:
>> >> +void clear_pages_orig(void *page, unsigned int length);
>> >> +void clear_pages_rep(void *page, unsigned int length);
>> >> +void clear_pages_erms(void *page, unsigned int length);
>> >
>> > What unit is 'length' in? If it's bytes, why is this interface
>> > artificially limiting itself to ~4GB? On x86-64 there's very little (if
>>
>> I was in two minds about the unit. Given that the largest page size is
>> 1GB, decided to go with 32bit. But, as you say below, there's no reason
>> to limit the x86-64 interface for MM reasons. Will fix.
>
> Actually, I think there is (and we went through this with SPARC, if you
> remember?)
My google-fu is failing me. I don't think it was this thread:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1490310113-824438-1-git-send-email-pasha.tatashin@oracle.com/
> We _shouldn't_ be calling memset() with a large size (ie
> larger than 4GB). If we have that much memory to clear, we should be
> doing something smarter, like using padata to get lots of CPUs clearing
> individual portions of the page.
Agreed. Or even offloading to an accelerator so as to not waste CPU time.
That said, whether to invoke clear_pages() in > 4GB seems like an MM
policy question. Not sure it makes sense to limit the low level interface.
> I don't know how relevant this is now that you're going to be using
> ALTERNATIVES.
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-15 21:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-14 3:46 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 3:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for " Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 6:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:46 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 22:26 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 6:14 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 8:22 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 20:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 20:32 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 19:52 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 20:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-15 21:59 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-04-14 3:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] x86/clear_page: add clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 3:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] huge_page: allow arch override for folio_zero_user() Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 3:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] x86/folio_zero_user: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 21:21 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-15 6:36 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22 6:36 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:14 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 10:16 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-15 21:46 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 22:01 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-16 4:46 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-17 14:06 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-14 5:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/folio_zero_user: add " Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:30 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-14 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-14 19:19 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-15 19:10 ` Zi Yan
2025-04-22 19:32 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-22 6:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-22 19:22 ` Ankur Arora
2025-04-23 8:12 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-04-23 9:18 ` Raghavendra K T
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