From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
djwong@kernel.org, john.g.garry@oracle.com, tytso@mit.edu,
willy@infradead.org, dchinner@redhat.com, hch@lst.de,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, jack@suse.cz, nilay@linux.ibm.com,
martin.petersen@oracle.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] xfs: single block atomic writes for buffered IO
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:12:49 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frai8p46.ritesh.list@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113052337.GA28533@lst.de>
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 08:56:56AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:36:03PM +0530, Ojaswin Mujoo wrote:
>> > This patch adds support to perform single block RWF_ATOMIC writes for
>> > iomap xfs buffered IO. This builds upon the inital RFC shared by John
>> > Garry last year [1]. Most of the details are present in the respective
>> > commit messages but I'd mention some of the design points below:
>>
>> What is the use case for this functionality? i.e. what is the
>> reason for adding all this complexity?
>
> Seconded. The atomic code has a lot of complexity, and further mixing
> it with buffered I/O makes this even worse. We'd need a really important
> use case to even consider it.
I agree this should have been in the cover letter itself.
I believe the reason for adding this functionality was also discussed at
LSFMM too...
For e.g. https://lwn.net/Articles/974578/ goes in depth and talks about
Postgres folks looking for this, since PostgreSQL databases uses
buffered I/O for their database writes.
-ritesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-13 5:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-12 11:06 Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] fs: Rename STATX{_ATTR}_WRITE_ATOMIC -> STATX{_ATTR}_WRITE_ATOMIC_DIO Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: Add PG_atomic Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 15:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-13 12:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-14 5:00 ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-14 13:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-18 16:17 ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-18 23:30 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] fs: Add initial buffered atomic write support info to statx Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] iomap: buffered atomic write support Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] iomap: pin pages for RWF_ATOMIC buffered write Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] xfs: Report atomic write min and max for buf io as well Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] iomap: Add bs<ps buffered atomic writes support Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] xfs: Lift the bs == ps restriction for HW buffered atomic writes Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-12 15:50 ` [syzbot ci] Re: xfs: single block atomic writes for buffered IO syzbot ci
2025-11-12 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] " Dave Chinner
2025-11-13 5:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-13 5:42 ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]
2025-11-13 5:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-13 10:32 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-14 9:20 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-14 13:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-16 8:11 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-17 10:59 ` John Garry
2025-11-17 20:51 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-20 10:37 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-11-20 12:14 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
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