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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,  <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	 <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,  Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,  <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	<joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,  <rakie.kim@sk.com>,
	 <byungchul@sk.com>, <gourry@gourry.net>,  <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	 <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Question] get_vma_policy() isn't compatible with {pin, get}_user_pages_remote
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 09:53:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyabxxau.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94a3d35d-0872-5696-0333-7273f4a69979@huawei.com> (Jinjiang Tu's message of "Tue, 8 Jul 2025 09:21:57 +0800")

Hi, Jinjiang,

Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com> writes:

> get_vma_policy() returns the mempolicy for the vma. If the vma has set
> mempolicy, the policy is returned. Otherwise,
> call get_task_policy(current) to get the mempolicy of current
> task. However, it isn't reasonable for
> pin_user_pages_remote() and get_user_pages_remote() cases.
>
> Assume task A calls pin_user_pages_remote() to pin user pages from
> task B. If the [start, start + nr_pages) isn't
> populated with pages, handle_mm_fault() will be called by task
> A. However, if the vma doesn't set memory policy,
> the mempolicy of task A instead of task B is used to allocate. It
> seems to be unreasonable. See
> dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma()->huge_node().
>
> We can only obtain mm in get_vma_policy(), but we couldn't get the
> task, since a mm can be associated with multiple
> tasks(threads) and the task mempolicy is at thread granularity.
>
> Is this situation reasonable? And if not, how could we fix it?

Yes.  This sounds like an issue in theory and it's hard to be resolved
if possible.  Please take a look at get_user_pages_remote() usage in
exec().

Do you have some practical issue with pin/get_user_pages_remote()?

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-08  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-08  1:21 Jinjiang Tu
2025-07-08  1:53 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2025-07-08  2:51   ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-07-08  3:05     ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-09  4:25       ` Jinjiang Tu

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