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From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>
Cc: "Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)" <alex.sierra@amd.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	rcampbell@nvidia.com, "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
	"amd-gfx list" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Maling list - DRI developers" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/13] mm: add zone device coherent type memory support
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:17:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkuo898d.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFCwf11z5Q+2FPS1yPi6EwQuRqoJg_dLB-rYgtVwP-zQEdqjQQ@mail.gmail.com>


Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 8:20 PM Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
> <alex.sierra@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2022 4:40 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> > On 31.05.22 22:00, Alex Sierra wrote:
>> >> Device memory that is cache coherent from device and CPU point of view.
>> >> This is used on platforms that have an advanced system bus (like CAPI
>> >> or CXL). Any page of a process can be migrated to such memory. However,
>> >> no one should be allowed to pin such memory so that it can always be
>> >> evicted.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Alex Sierra <alex.sierra@amd.com>
>> >> Acked-by: Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
>> >> Reviewed-by: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
>> >> [hch: rebased ontop of the refcount changes,
>> >>        removed is_dev_private_or_coherent_page]
>> >> Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
>> >> ---
>> >>   include/linux/memremap.h | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
>> >>   mm/memcontrol.c          |  7 ++++---
>> >>   mm/memory-failure.c      |  8 ++++++--
>> >>   mm/memremap.c            | 10 ++++++++++
>> >>   mm/migrate_device.c      | 16 +++++++---------
>> >>   mm/rmap.c                |  5 +++--
>> >>   6 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/include/linux/memremap.h b/include/linux/memremap.h
>> >> index 8af304f6b504..9f752ebed613 100644
>> >> --- a/include/linux/memremap.h
>> >> +++ b/include/linux/memremap.h
>> >> @@ -41,6 +41,13 @@ struct vmem_altmap {
>> >>    * A more complete discussion of unaddressable memory may be found in
>> >>    * include/linux/hmm.h and Documentation/vm/hmm.rst.
>> >>    *
>> >> + * MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT:
>> >> + * Device memory that is cache coherent from device and CPU point of view. This
>> >> + * is used on platforms that have an advanced system bus (like CAPI or CXL). A
>> >> + * driver can hotplug the device memory using ZONE_DEVICE and with that memory
>> >> + * type. Any page of a process can be migrated to such memory. However no one
>> > Any page might not be right, I'm pretty sure. ... just thinking about special pages
>> > like vdso, shared zeropage, ... pinned pages ...
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Yes, I think you're right. This type does not cover all special pages.
>> I need to correct that on the cover letter.
>> Pinned pages are allowed as long as they're not long term pinned.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex Sierra
>
> What if I want to hotplug this device's coherent memory, but I do
> *not* want the OS
> to migrate any page to it ?
> I want to fully-control what resides on this memory, as I can consider
> this memory
> "expensive". i.e. I don't have a lot of it, I want to use it for
> specific purposes and
> I don't want the OS to start using it when there is some memory pressure in
> the system.

This is exactly what MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT is for. Device coherent
pages are only allocated by a device driver and exposed to user-space by
a driver migrating pages to them with migrate_vma. The OS can't just
start using them due to memory pressure for example.

 - Alistair

> Oded
>
>>
>> >
>> >> + * should be allowed to pin such memory so that it can always be evicted.
>> >> + *
>> >>    * MEMORY_DEVICE_FS_DAX:
>> >>    * Host memory that has similar access semantics as System RAM i.e. DMA
>> >>    * coherent and supports page pinning. In support of coordinating page
>> >> @@ -61,6 +68,7 @@ struct vmem_altmap {
>> >>   enum memory_type {
>> >>      /* 0 is reserved to catch uninitialized type fields */
>> >>      MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE = 1,
>> >> +    MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT,
>> >>      MEMORY_DEVICE_FS_DAX,
>> >>      MEMORY_DEVICE_GENERIC,
>> >>      MEMORY_DEVICE_PCI_P2PDMA,
>> >> @@ -143,6 +151,17 @@ static inline bool folio_is_device_private(const struct folio *folio)
>> > In general, this LGTM, and it should be correct with PageAnonExclusive I think.
>> >
>> >
>> > However, where exactly is pinning forbidden?
>>
>> Long-term pinning is forbidden since it would interfere with the device
>> memory manager owning the
>> device-coherent pages (e.g. evictions in TTM). However, normal pinning
>> is allowed on this device type.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex Sierra
>>
>> >


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-20  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-31 20:00 [PATCH v5 00/13] Add MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT for coherent device memory mapping Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 01/13] mm: add zone device coherent type memory support Alex Sierra
2022-06-17  9:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-17 17:20     ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-17 17:33       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-17 19:27         ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-17 21:19           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-21 11:25             ` Felix Kuehling
2022-06-21 11:32               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-21 11:55                 ` Alistair Popple
2022-06-21 12:25                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-21 16:08                     ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-21 16:16                       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-22  0:16                         ` Alistair Popple
2022-06-22 23:06                           ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-22 23:16                         ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-23  7:57                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-23 18:20                             ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-23 18:21                               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-24 16:13                                 ` Sierra Guiza, Alejandro (Alex)
2022-06-18  9:32       ` Oded Gabbay
2022-06-20  0:17         ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2022-06-20  6:01           ` Oded Gabbay
2022-06-20  8:13             ` Alistair Popple
2022-06-20 12:23               ` Oded Gabbay
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 02/13] mm: handling Non-LRU pages returned by vm_normal_pages Alex Sierra
2022-06-08  7:06   ` Alistair Popple
2022-06-17  9:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 03/13] mm: add device coherent vma selection for memory migration Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 04/13] mm: remove the vma check in migrate_vma_setup() Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 05/13] mm/gup: migrate device coherent pages when pinning instead of failing Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 06/13] drm/amdkfd: add SPM support for SVM Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 07/13] lib: test_hmm add ioctl to get zone device type Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 08/13] lib: test_hmm add module param for " Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 09/13] lib: add support for device coherent type in test_hmm Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 10/13] tools: update hmm-test to support device coherent type Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 11/13] tools: update test_hmm script to support SP config Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 12/13] tools: add hmm gup tests for device coherent type Alex Sierra
2022-05-31 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 13/13] tools: add selftests to hmm for COW in device memory Alex Sierra
2022-06-17  2:19 ` [PATCH v5 00/13] Add MEMORY_DEVICE_COHERENT for coherent device memory mapping Andrew Morton
2022-06-17  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand

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