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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, John Ogness <jogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Excessive TLB flush ranges
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 21:32:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkik6pin.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ED917BC-420F-47D4-8956-8984205A75F0@gmail.com>

On Tue, May 16 2023 at 10:56, Nadav Amit wrote:
>> On May 16, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> 
>> There is a world outside of x86, but even on x86 it's borderline silly
>> to take the whole TLB out when you can flush 3 TLB entries one by one
>> with exactly the same number of IPIs, i.e. _one_. No?
>
> I just want to re-raise points that were made in the past, including in
> the discussion that I sent before and match my experience.
>
> Feel free to reject them, but I think you should not ignore them.

I'm not ignoring them and I'm well aware of these issues. No need to
repeat them over and over. I'm old but not senile yet.

It might turn out that it's not the proper solution for x86, but the
generic vmalloc code as of today is written with an x86 centric view.

That actively hurts other architectures which do have different
constraints than x86. Any architecture which can do IPI-less TLB flushes
seriously wants to decide on their own whether a flush all is the better
option or not. Blindly coalescing random address ranges makes this
impossible as demonstrated.

Aside of that I just wrote the patch for x86 in the first place because
I couldn't be bothered to find and setup an ARM box to test on.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-15 16:43 Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 16:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-15 19:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  6:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  6:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:18           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:03                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 10:05                   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16 14:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 19:03                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  9:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 10:52                           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 11:22                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 11:49                               ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:13                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:01                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm/vmalloc.c: try to flush vmap_area one by one Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:16                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc.c: Only flush VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS area immediately Baoquan He
2023-05-19 12:03                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vmalloc.c: change _vm_unmap_aliases() to do purge firstly Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:17                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 18:38                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 23:46                             ` Baoquan He
2023-05-21 23:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 11:21                                 ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 12:02                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 14:34                                     ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 20:21                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 20:44                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-23  9:35                                         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 13:49                   ` Excessive TLB flush ranges Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:21             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:48               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16 12:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 13:42                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 14:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 15:01                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:26                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 11:58                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:15                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 16:32                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 10:01                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 14:56                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:14                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 16:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 17:02                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:56                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-16 19:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-05-17  0:23                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  1:23                             ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 10:31                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:47                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:41                                   ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 14:43                                 ` Mark Rutland
2023-05-17 16:41                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:57                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-19 11:49                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:12                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-17 23:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-15 18:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16  2:26   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  6:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:07       ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:10         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:45         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  9:48           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-15 20:02 ` Nadav Amit

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