From: Ritesh Harjani (IBM) <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev
Cc: lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
mhocko@suse.com, donettom@linux.ibm.com, aboorvad@linux.ibm.com,
sj@kernel.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: fix the inaccurate memory statistics issue for users
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2025 10:57:41 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjqx4h82.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4586b17f66f97c174f7fd1f8647374fdb53de1c.1749119050.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
> On some large machines with a high number of CPUs running a 64K pagesize
> kernel, we found that the 'RES' field is always 0 displayed by the top
> command for some processes, which will cause a lot of confusion for users.
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 875525 root 20 0 12480 0 0 R 0.3 0.0 0:00.08 top
> 1 root 20 0 172800 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:04.52 systemd
>
> The main reason is that the batch size of the percpu counter is quite large
> on these machines, caching a significant percpu value, since converting mm's
> rss stats into percpu_counter by commit f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss
> stats into percpu_counter"). Intuitively, the batch number should be optimized,
> but on some paths, performance may take precedence over statistical accuracy.
> Therefore, introducing a new interface to add the percpu statistical count
> and display it to users, which can remove the confusion. In addition, this
> change is not expected to be on a performance-critical path, so the modification
> should be acceptable.
>
> In addition, the 'mm->rss_stat' is updated by using add_mm_counter() and
> dec/inc_mm_counter(), which are all wrappers around percpu_counter_add_batch().
> In percpu_counter_add_batch(), there is percpu batch caching to avoid 'fbc->lock'
> contention. This patch changes task_mem() and task_statm() to get the accurate
> mm counters under the 'fbc->lock', but this should not exacerbate kernel
> 'mm->rss_stat' lock contention due to the percpu batch caching of the mm
> counters. The following test also confirm the theoretical analysis.
>
> I run the stress-ng that stresses anon page faults in 32 threads on my 32 cores
> machine, while simultaneously running a script that starts 32 threads to
> busy-loop pread each stress-ng thread's /proc/pid/status interface. From the
> following data, I did not observe any obvious impact of this patch on the
> stress-ng tests.
>
> w/o patch:
> stress-ng: info: [6848] 4,399,219,085,152 CPU Cycles 67.327 B/sec
> stress-ng: info: [6848] 1,616,524,844,832 Instructions 24.740 B/sec (0.367 instr. per cycle)
> stress-ng: info: [6848] 39,529,792 Page Faults Total 0.605 M/sec
> stress-ng: info: [6848] 39,529,792 Page Faults Minor 0.605 M/sec
>
> w/patch:
> stress-ng: info: [2485] 4,462,440,381,856 CPU Cycles 68.382 B/sec
> stress-ng: info: [2485] 1,615,101,503,296 Instructions 24.750 B/sec (0.362 instr. per cycle)
> stress-ng: info: [2485] 39,439,232 Page Faults Total 0.604 M/sec
> stress-ng: info: [2485] 39,439,232 Page Faults Minor 0.604 M/sec
>
> Tested-by Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> Reviewed-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> Tested-by: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
> Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> Acked-by: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> ---
> Changes from v1:
> - Update the commit message to add some measurements.
> - Add acked tag from Michal. Thanks.
> - Drop the Fixes tag.
Any reason why we dropped the Fixes tag? I see there were a series of
discussion on v1 and it got concluded that the fix was correct, then why
drop the fixes tag?
Background: Recently few folks internally reported this issue on Power
too. e.g.
$ ps -o rss $$
RSS
0
So it would be nice if we had fixes tag so that it gets backported
to all stable release. Does anybody sees any concern with that?
-ritesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-09 5:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-05 12:58 Baolin Wang
2025-06-05 13:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-09 5:27 ` Ritesh Harjani [this message]
2025-06-09 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-09 8:04 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09 8:31 ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-06-09 8:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-09 8:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-10 0:17 ` Andrew Morton
2025-06-10 0:45 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-06-10 9:59 ` Michal Hocko
2025-07-04 18:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2025-07-04 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-04 20:14 ` Luiz Capitulino
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