From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+ece2915262061d6e0ac1@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
<syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/stackdepot: stackdepot: don't use __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from __stack_depot_save() if atomic context
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 11:07:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5xx2hdk.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0471c62b-7047-050a-14f5-f47dfaffaba7@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (Tetsuo Handa's message of "Mon, 22 May 2023 11:47:25 +0900")
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> writes:
> On 2023/05/22 11:13, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Any atomic allocation used by KASAN needs to drop __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM bit.
>>> Where do we want to drop this bit (in the caller side, or in the callee side)?
>>
>> Yes. I think we should fix the KASAN. Maybe define a new GFP_XXX
>> (instead of GFP_ATOMIC) for debug code? The debug code may be called at
>> almost arbitrary places, and wakeup_kswap() isn't safe to be called in
>> some situations.
>
> What do you think about removing __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT?
> Recent reports indicate that atomic allocations (GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT) are not safe
> enough to think "atomic". They just don't do direct reclaim, but they do take spinlocks.
> Removing __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT simplifies locking dependency and
> reduces latency of atomic allocations (which is important when called from "atomic" context).
> I consider that memory allocations which do not do direct reclaim should be geared towards
> less locking dependency.
Except debug code, where do you find locking issues for waking up kswapd?
> In general, GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_NOWAIT users will not allocate many pages.
> It is likely that somebody else tries to allocate memory using __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM
> right after GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_NOWAIT allocations. We unlikely need to wake kswapd
> upon GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_NOWAIT allocations.
>
> If some GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_NOWAIT users need to allocate many pages, they can add
> __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM explicitly; though allocating many pages using GFP_ATOMIC or
> GFP_NOWAIT is not recommended from the beginning...
From performance perspective, it's better to wake up kswapd as early as
possible. Because it can reduce the possibility of the direct
reclaiming, which may case very long latency.
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-22 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <000000000000cef3a005fc1bcc80@google.com>
2023-05-20 11:02 ` [syzbot] [kernel?] possible deadlock in scheduler_tick (2) Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 11:33 ` [PATCH] lib/stackdepot: stackdepot: don't use __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from __stack_depot_save() if atomic context Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 13:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 22:44 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-22 2:13 ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-22 2:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-22 3:07 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-05-22 11:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-23 0:07 ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-23 0:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-23 1:10 ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-24 12:09 ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-27 15:25 ` [PATCH] kasan,kmsan: remove __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM usage from kasan/kmsan Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-29 1:07 ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-31 13:31 ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-09 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <19d6c965-a9cf-16a5-6537-a02823d67c0a@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2023-06-12 1:30 ` [PATCH v3] lib/stackdepot: fix gfp flags manipulation in __stack_depot_save() Huang, Ying
2023-06-21 12:56 ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-21 14:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 14:42 ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-21 14:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 15:37 ` [PATCH] kasan,kmsan: remove __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM usage from kasan/kmsan Alexander Potapenko
2023-05-27 21:01 ` [syzbot] [ntfs3?] possible deadlock in scheduler_tick (2) syzbot
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