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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,  Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	 Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	"Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>,
	 Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	 Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	 Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	 Yin Fengwei <fengwei_yin@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 2/2] arm64, tlbflush: don't TLBI broadcast if page reused in write fault
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 17:46:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a51j6zg7.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zKGS-Xd-58ufXGoyRfaZWd8wTgv0b6ibHJ2aS14mQqtw@mail.gmail.com> (Barry Song's message of "Wed, 22 Oct 2025 22:37:54 +1300")

Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> writes:

>>
>> With PTL, this becomes
>>
>> CPU0:                           CPU1:
>>
>> page fault                      page fault
>> lock PTL
>> write PTE
>> do local tlbi
>> unlock PTL
>>                                 lock PTL        <- pte visible to CPU 1
>>                                 read PTE        <- new PTE
>>                                 do local tlbi   <- new PTE
>>                                 unlock PTL
>
> I agree. Yet the ish barrier can still avoid the page faults during CPU0's PTL.

IIUC, you think that dsb(ish) compared with dsb(nsh) can accelerate
memory writing (visible to other CPUs).  TBH, I suspect that this is the
case.

> CPU0:                                                                  CPU1:
>
> lock PTL
>
> write pte;
> Issue ish barrier
> do local tlbi;
>
>
>     No page fault occurs if tlb misses
>
>
> unlock PTL
>
>
> Otherwise, it could be:
>
>
> CPU0:                                                                  CPU1:
>
> lock PTL
>
> write pte;
> Issue nsh barrier
> do local tlbi;
>
>
>     page fault occurs if tlb misses
>
>
> unlock PTL
>
>
> Not quite sure if adding an ish right after the PTE modification has any
> noticeable performance impact on the test? I assume the most expensive part
> is still the tlbi broadcast dsb, not the PTE memory sync barrier?

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-22  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13  9:20 [PATCH -v2 0/2] arm, tlbflush: avoid " Huang Ying
2025-10-13  9:20 ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] mm: add spurious fault fixing support for huge pmd Huang Ying
2025-10-14 14:21   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-14 14:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-14 14:49       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-14 14:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-14 15:13           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-15  8:43     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-15 11:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-15 12:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16  2:22         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-16  8:25           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-16  8:59             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16  9:12             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-13  9:20 ` [PATCH -v2 2/2] arm64, tlbflush: don't TLBI broadcast if page reused in write fault Huang Ying
2025-10-15 15:28   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-10-16  1:35     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  4:08   ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  7:31     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  8:14       ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  9:02         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  9:17           ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  9:30             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  9:37               ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  9:46                 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2025-10-22  9:55                   ` Barry Song
2025-10-22 10:22                     ` Barry Song
2025-10-22 10:34                     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22 10:52                       ` Barry Song
2025-10-23  1:22                         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-23  5:39                           ` Barry Song
2025-10-23  6:15                             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-23 10:18     ` Ryan Roberts

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