From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
dave.jiang@intel.com, Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com,
horenchuang@bytedance.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
lenb@kernel.org,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi/hmat,mm/memtier: always register hmat adist calculation callback
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 15:20:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qxiowmy.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZqlF0hn6Jh4Ybl-p@PC2K9PVX.TheFacebook.com> (Gregory Price's message of "Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:58:10 -0400")
Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 09:22:32AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
>>
>> > This presumes driver configured devices, which is not always the case.
>> >
>> > kmem.c will set MEMTIER_DEFAULT_DAX_ADISTANCE
>> >
>> > but if BIOS/EFI has set up the node instead, you get the default of
>> > MEMTIER_ADISTANCE_DRAM if HMAT is not present or otherwise not sane.
>>
>> "efi_fake_mem=" kernel parameter can be used to add "EFI_MEMORY_SP" flag
>> to the memory range, so that kmem.c can manage it.
>>
>
> In this case, the system is configured explicitly so that kmem does not
> manage it. In fact, some systems still cannot be managed with
> EFI_MEMORY_SP due to hpa!=spa issues that the driver cannot manage.
Sorry, I don't understand. IIUC, kmem.c can manage almost any memory
range via drivers/dax/hmem. Please check
drivers/dax/hmem/device.c
drivers/dax/hmem/hmem.c
Could you elaborate why kmem.c doesn't work for some memory range?
>> > Not everyone is going to have the ability to get a platform vendor to
>> > fix a BIOS bug, and I've seen this in production.
>>
>> So, some vendor build a machine with broken/missing HMAT/CDAT and wants
>> users to use CXL memory devices in it? Have the vendor tested whether
>> CXL memory devices work?
>>
>
> As I mentioned, the broken aspect is being fixed, however there are
> existing production hardware which do not have HMAT entries.
>
>> > But the first step here would be creating two modes. HMAT-is-sane and
>> > CPU/Non-CPU seems reasonable to me but open to opinions.
>>
>> IMHO, we should reduce user configurable knobs unless we can prove it
>> is really necessary.
>>
>
> That's fair and valid.
>
> But I think a feature that worked in 5.x should work in 6.x, and right
> now the change in node placement breaks hardware that worked with 5.x
> which happened to have broken or missing HMAT.
--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-31 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-26 21:55 Gregory Price
2024-07-29 1:02 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-29 14:22 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-30 1:12 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-30 3:18 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-31 1:22 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-30 19:58 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-31 7:20 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2024-07-30 20:26 ` Gregory Price
2024-08-27 14:33 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-30 5:19 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-30 6:12 ` Gregory Price
2024-07-31 1:10 ` Huang, Ying
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