From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
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boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/14] mm: memory: support clearing page-extents
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 20:19:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qkohleu.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6413d17-c530-4553-9eca-dec8dce37e7e@redhat.com>
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> On 10.07.25 02:59, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> folio_zero_user() is constrained to clear in a page-at-a-time
>> fashion because it supports CONFIG_HIGHMEM which means that kernel
>> mappings for pages in a folio are not guaranteed to be contiguous.
>> We don't have this problem when running under configurations with
>> CONFIG_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT (implies !CONFIG_HIGHMEM), so zero in
>> longer page-extents.
>> This is expected to be faster because the processor can now optimize
>> the clearing based on the knowledge of the extent.
>> However, clearing in larger chunks can have two other problems:
>> - cache locality when clearing small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES)
>> (larger folios don't have any expectation of cache locality).
>> - preemption latency when clearing large folios.
>> Handle the first by splitting the clearing in three parts: the
>> faulting page and its immediate locality, its left and right
>> regions; the local neighbourhood is cleared last.
>> The second problem is relevant only when running under cooperative
>> preemption models. Limit the worst case preemption latency by clearing
>> in architecture specified ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT units.
>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>> ---
>> mm/memory.c | 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> 1 file changed, 85 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index b0cda5aab398..c52806270375 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -7034,6 +7034,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
>> return 0;
>> }
>> +#ifndef CONFIG_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT
>> static void clear_gigantic_page(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint,
>> unsigned int nr_pages)
>> {
>> @@ -7058,7 +7059,10 @@ static int clear_subpage(unsigned long addr, int idx, void *arg)
>> /**
>> * folio_zero_user - Zero a folio which will be mapped to userspace.
>> * @folio: The folio to zero.
>> - * @addr_hint: The address will be accessed or the base address if uncelar.
>> + * @addr_hint: The address accessed by the user or the base address.
>> + *
>> + * folio_zero_user() uses clear_gigantic_page() or process_huge_page() to
>> + * do page-at-a-time zeroing because it needs to handle CONFIG_HIGHMEM.
>> */
>> void folio_zero_user(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint)
>> {
>> @@ -7070,6 +7074,86 @@ void folio_zero_user(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint)
>> process_huge_page(addr_hint, nr_pages, clear_subpage, folio);
>> }
>> +#else /* CONFIG_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT */
>> +
>> +static void clear_pages_resched(void *addr, int npages)
>> +{
>> + int i, remaining;
>> +
>> + if (preempt_model_preemptible()) {
>> + clear_pages(addr, npages);
>> + goto out;
>> + }
>> +
>> + for (i = 0; i < npages/ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT; i++) {
>> + clear_pages(addr + i * ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT * PAGE_SIZE,
>> + ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT);
>> + cond_resched();
>> + }
>> +
>> + remaining = npages % ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT;
>> +
>> + if (remaining)
>> + clear_pages(addr + i * ARCH_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT * PAGE_SHIFT,
>> + remaining);
>> +out:
>> + cond_resched();
>> +}
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * folio_zero_user - Zero a folio which will be mapped to userspace.
>> + * @folio: The folio to zero.
>> + * @addr_hint: The address accessed by the user or the base address.
>> + *
>> + * Uses architectural support for clear_pages() to zero page extents
>> + * instead of clearing page-at-a-time.
>> + *
>> + * Clearing of small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) is split in three parts:
>> + * pages in the immediate locality of the faulting page, and its left, right
>> + * regions; the local neighbourhood cleared last in order to keep cache
>> + * lines of the target region hot.
>> + *
>> + * For larger folios we assume that there is no expectation of cache locality
>> + * and just do a straight zero.
>> + */
>> +void folio_zero_user(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint)
>> +{
>> + unsigned long base_addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr_hint, folio_size(folio));
>> + const long fault_idx = (addr_hint - base_addr) / PAGE_SIZE;
>> + const struct range pg = DEFINE_RANGE(0, folio_nr_pages(folio) - 1);
>> + const int width = 2; /* number of pages cleared last on either side */
>> + struct range r[3];
>> + int i;
>> +
>> + if (folio_nr_pages(folio) > MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) {
>> + clear_pages_resched(page_address(folio_page(folio, 0)), folio_nr_pages(folio));
>> + return;
>> + }
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Faulting page and its immediate neighbourhood. Cleared at the end to
>> + * ensure it sticks around in the cache.
>> + */
>> + r[2] = DEFINE_RANGE(clamp_t(s64, fault_idx - width, pg.start, pg.end),
>> + clamp_t(s64, fault_idx + width, pg.start, pg.end));
>> +
>> + /* Region to the left of the fault */
>> + r[1] = DEFINE_RANGE(pg.start,
>> + clamp_t(s64, r[2].start-1, pg.start-1, r[2].start));
>> +
>> + /* Region to the right of the fault: always valid for the common fault_idx=0 case. */
>> + r[0] = DEFINE_RANGE(clamp_t(s64, r[2].end+1, r[2].end, pg.end+1),
>> + pg.end);
>> +
>> + for (i = 0; i <= 2; i++) {
>> + int npages = range_len(&r[i]);
>> +
>> + if (npages > 0)
>> + clear_pages_resched(page_address(folio_page(folio, r[i].start)), npages);
>> + }
>> +}
>> +#endif /* CONFIG_CLEAR_PAGE_EXTENT */
>> +
>> static int copy_user_gigantic_page(struct folio *dst, struct folio *src,
>> unsigned long addr_hint,
>> struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>
> So, folio_zero_user() is only compiled with THP | HUGETLB already.
>
> What we should probably do is scrap the whole new kconfig option and
> do something like this in here:
So, in principle I don't disagree and unifying both of these is cleaner
than introducing a whole new option.
However that still leaves this code having to contort around CONFIG_HIGHMEM
which is probably even less frequently used than THP | HUGETLB.
Maybe we should get rid of ARCH_HAS_CLEAR_PAGES completely and everyone
with !HIGHMEM either use a generic version of clear_pages() which loops
and calls clear_page() or some architectural override.
And, then we can do a similar transformation with copy_pages() (and
copy_user_large_folio()).
At that point, process_huge_page() is used only for !HIGHMEM configs
configs which likely have relatively small caches and so that leaves
it probably over-engineered.
The thing that gives me pause is that non-x86 might perform worse
when they switch away from the left-right zeroing approach in
process_huge_page() to a generic clear_pages().
So, maybe allowing architectures to opt in by having to define
ARCH_HAS_CLEAR_PAGES would allow doing this in a more measured fashion.
(There isn't much justification for the left-right zeroing in the
commit: c79b57e462b "mm: hugetlb: clear target sub-page last when
clearing huge page". Just that it performs better on a benchmark:
anon-w-seq.)
Thanks!
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-16 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-10 0:59 [PATCH v5 00/14] mm: folio_zero_user: clearing of page-extents Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] perf bench mem: Remove repetition around time measurement Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:04 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] perf bench mem: Defer type munging of size to float Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:05 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-16 2:17 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] perf bench mem: Move mem op parameters into a structure Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:06 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] perf bench mem: Pull out init/fini logic Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:09 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] perf bench mem: Switch from zalloc() to mmap() Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:09 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] perf bench mem: Allow mapping of hugepages Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:12 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-16 2:32 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] perf bench mem: Allow chunking on a memory region Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:17 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-16 2:34 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] perf bench mem: Refactor mem_options Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:18 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] perf bench mem: Add mmap() workloads Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:20 ` Namhyung Kim
2025-07-16 2:40 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 11:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 17:26 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 19:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 19:24 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 19:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] mm: add config option for clearing page-extents Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 7:58 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-10 16:31 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 11:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 17:25 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 19:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 19:35 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 17:32 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 19:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 19:42 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-14 20:35 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 20:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm: memory: support " Ankur Arora
2025-07-11 11:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 13:27 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-07-11 17:39 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-15 22:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 3:19 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-07-16 8:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 17:54 ` Ankur Arora
2025-07-10 0:59 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] x86/clear_pages: Support clearing of page-extents Ankur Arora
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