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From: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Comment on patch to remove nr_async_pages limit
Date: 05 Jun 2001 17:56:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877kyqzzr5.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106042142550.2521-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> (Marcelo Tosatti's message of "Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:04:22 -0300 (BRT)")

Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br> writes:

> Zlatko, 
> 
> I've read your patch to remove nr_async_pages limit while reading an
> archive on the web. (I have to figure out why lkml is not being delivered
> correctly to me...)
> 
> Quoting your message: 
> 
> "That artificial limit hurts both swap out and swap in path as it
> introduces synchronization points (and/or weakens swapin readahead),
> which I think are not necessary."
> 
> If we are under low memory, we cannot simply writeout a whole bunch of
> swap data. Remember the writeout operations will potentially allocate
> buffer_head's for the swapcache pages before doing real IO, which takes
> _more memory_: OOM deadlock. 
> 

My question is: if we defer writing and in a way "loose" that 4096
bytes of memory (because we decide to keep the page in the memory for
some more time), how can a much smaller buffer_head be a problem?

I think we could always make a bigger reserve of buffer heads just for
this purpose, to make swapout more robust, and then don't impose any
limits on the number of the outstanding async io pages in the flight.

Does this make any sense?

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Zlatko
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-05 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-05  1:04 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-05  7:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-05  6:18   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-05 10:32     ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-05 11:42       ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-06-05 16:08         ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-06-05 19:21       ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2001-06-05 21:00         ` Comment on patch to remove nr_async_pages limitA Mike Galbraith
2001-06-05 22:21           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-05 16:05     ` Comment on patch to remove nr_async_pages limit Zlatko Calusic
2001-06-09  3:09       ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-09  6:07         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-05 15:57   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-06-05 15:56 ` Zlatko Calusic [this message]

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