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From: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko.calusic@iskon.hr>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Zlatko's I/O slowdown status
Date: 02 Nov 2001 22:22:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877kt8eukz.fsf@atlas.iskon.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0111021825180.2963-100000@imladris.surriel.com> (Rik van Riel's message of "Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:26:44 -0200 (BRST)")

Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> writes:

> On 2 Nov 2001, Zlatko Calusic wrote:
> 
> > It was write caching. Somehow disk was running with write cache turned
> > off and I was getting abysmal write performance. Then I found hdparm
> > -W0 /proc/ide/hd* in /etc/init.d/umountfs which is ran during shutdown
> >
> > I would advise users of Debian unstable to comment that part,
> 
> Why do you want Debian users to loose their data ? ;)

That few lines of code is a recent addition to Debian. It never
existed before, so do you want to say that Debian was buggy for years
and people lost massive amounts of data because of that? :)

No, really, I'm using poweroff on my computer and not once I had a
problem with it (I'm speaking about thousands of poweroffs) losing
data after poweroff. But I have a problem with bad performance. :)

> 
> The 'hdparm -W0' is useful in getting the drive to flush
> out the data to disk instead of having it linger around
> in the drive cache.
> 

Yes, I know, but it's not THAT important, otherwise it wouldn't be
missing so many years from the init script.

Anyway, this whole debate probably points to a problem of missing
hdparm -W1 in the startup init script. IDE drives really behave
poorely without write caching and there's nothing we could do about
that, beside turning it on and pray to God we don't have too many
power outages. :)
-- 
Zlatko

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-02 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-24 10:42 xmm2 - monitor Linux MM active/inactive lists graphically Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-24 14:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-25  0:25   ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25  4:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25  4:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:48         ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-25 16:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 17:33             ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26  9:45             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 10:08             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 14:39               ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 14:57                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-26 15:01                   ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-26 16:04                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 16:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-26 17:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:30                       ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-28 17:34                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 17:48                           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 17:59                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 18:22                               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 18:46                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-28 19:29                                   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-28 18:56                               ` Andrew Morton
2001-10-30  8:56                               ` Jens Axboe
2001-10-30  9:26                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-10-28 19:13                         ` Barry K. Nathan
2001-10-28 21:42                           ` Jonathan Morton
2001-11-02  5:52                         ` Zlatko's I/O slowdown status Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02 20:14                           ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-11-02 20:26                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-02 21:22                               ` Zlatko Calusic [this message]
2001-11-02 20:57                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-02 23:23                             ` Simon Kirby
2001-10-27 13:14               ` xmm2 - monitor Linux MM active/inactive lists graphically Giuliano Pochini
2001-10-28  5:05                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-25  9:07       ` Zlatko Calusic

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