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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Mahesh Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hari Bathini <hbathini@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fadump: Register the memory reserved by fadump
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:57:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fbpt8ju.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160810064056.GB24800@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

>> 
>> > Conceptually it would be cleaner, if expensive, to calculate the real
>> > memblock reserves if HASH_EARLY and ditch the dma_reserve, memory_reserve
>> > and nr_kernel_pages entirely.
>> 
>> Why is it expensive? memblock tracks the totals for all memory and
>> reserved memory AFAIK, so it should just be a case of subtracting one
>> from the other?
>
> Are you suggesting that we use something like
> memblock_phys_mem_size() but one which returns
> memblock.reserved.total_size ? Maybe a new function like
> memblock_reserved_mem_size()?

Yeah, something like that. I'm not sure if it actually needs a function,
AFAIK you can just look at the structure directly.

>> > Unfortuantely, aside from the calculation,
>> > there is a potential cost due to a smaller hash table that affects everyone,
>> > not just ppc64.
>> 
>> Yeah OK. We could make it an arch hook, or controlled by a CONFIG.
>
> If its based on memblock.reserved.total_size, then should it be arch
> specific?

Yes I think so. Otherwise you have to test it on every architecture :)

>> > However, if the hash table is meant to be sized on the
>> > number of available pages then it really should be based on that and not
>> > just a made-up number.
>> 
>> Yeah that seems to make sense.
>> 
>> The one complication I think is that we may have memory that's marked
>> reserved in memblock, but is later freed to the page allocator (eg.
>> initrd).
>
> Yes, this is a possibility, for example lets say we want fadump to
> continue to run instead of rebooting to a new kernel as it does today.

But that's a bad idea and no one should ever do it.

For starters all your caches will be undersized, and anything that is
allocated per-node early in boot will not be allocated on the nodes
which were reserved, so the system's performance will potentially differ
from a normal boot in weird and unpredictable ways.

cheers

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 13:42 Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-04 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-04 15:27   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-05  7:07 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05  7:28   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-05  9:25     ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-05 10:06       ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-10  6:02         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10  6:40           ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-10  6:57             ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2016-08-10  9:21               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2016-08-10  7:51           ` Mel Gorman

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