From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/18] mm/memremap_pages: Support initializing pages to a zero reference count
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:03:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874jx0nud3.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <632ba212e32bb_349629451@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> writes:
> Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 08:36:43PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > The initial memremap_pages() implementation inherited the
>> > __init_single_page() default of pages starting life with an elevated
>> > reference count. This originally allowed for the page->pgmap pointer to
>> > alias with the storage for page->lru since a page was only allowed to be
>> > on an lru list when its reference count was zero.
>> >
>> > Since then, 'struct page' definition cleanups have arranged for
>> > dedicated space for the ZONE_DEVICE page metadata, and the
>> > MEMORY_DEVICE_{PRIVATE,COHERENT} work has arranged for the 1 -> 0
>> > page->_refcount transition to route the page to free_zone_device_page()
>> > and not the core-mm page-free. With those cleanups in place and with
>> > filesystem-dax and device-dax now converted to take and drop references
>> > at map and truncate time, it is possible to start MEMORY_DEVICE_FS_DAX
>> > and MEMORY_DEVICE_GENERIC reference counts at 0.
>> >
>> > MEMORY_DEVICE_{PRIVATE,COHERENT} still expect that their ZONE_DEVICE
>> > pages start life at _refcount 1, so make that the default if
>> > pgmap->init_mode is left at zero.
>>
>> I'm shocked to read this - how does it make any sense?
>
> I think what happened is that since memremap_pages() historically
> produced pages with an elevated reference count that GPU drivers skipped
> taking a reference on first allocation and just passed along an elevated
> reference count page to the first user.
>
> So either we keep that assumption or update all users to be prepared for
> idle pages coming out of memremap_pages().
>
> This is all in reaction to the "set_page_count(page, 1);" in
> free_zone_device_page(). Which I am happy to get rid of but need from
> help from MEMORY_DEVICE_{PRIVATE,COHERENT} folks to react to
> memremap_pages() starting all pages at reference count 0.
This is all rather good timing - This week I've been in the middle of
getting a series together which fixes this among other things. So I'm
all for fixing it and can help with that - my motivation was I needed to
be able to tell if a page is free or not with get_page_unless_zero()
etc. which doesn't work at the moment because free device
private/coherent pages have an elevated refcount.
- Alistair
>> dev_pagemap_ops->page_free() is only called on the 1->0 transition, so
>> any driver which implements it must be expecting pages to have a 0
>> refcount.
>>
>> Looking around everything but only fsdax_pagemap_ops implements
>> page_free()
>
> Right.
>
>> So, how does it work? Surely the instant the page map is created all
>> the pages must be considered 'free', and after page_free() is called I
>> would also expect the page to be considered free.
>
> The GPU drivers need to increment reference counts when they hand out
> the page rather than reuse the reference count that they get by default.
>
>> How on earth can a free'd page have both a 0 and 1 refcount??
>
> This is residual wonkiness from memremap_pages() handing out pages with
> elevated reference counts at the outset.
>
>> eg look at the simple hmm_test, it threads pages on to the
>> mdevice->free_pages list immediately after memremap_pages and then
>> again inside page_free() - it is completely wrong that they would have
>> different refcounts while on the free_pages list.
>
> I do not see any page_ref_inc() in that test, only put_page() so it is
> assuming non-idle pages at the outset.
>
>> I would expect that after the page is removed from the free_pages list
>> it will have its recount set to 1 to make it non-free then it will go
>> through the migration.
>>
>> Alistair how should the refcounting be working here in hmm_test?
>>
>> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-22 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-16 3:35 [PATCH v2 00/18] Fix the DAX-gup mistake Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] fsdax: Wait on @page not @page->_refcount Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] fsdax: Use dax_page_idle() to document DAX busy page checking Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] fsdax: Include unmapped inodes for page-idle detection Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] ext4: Add ext4_break_layouts() to the inode eviction path Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] xfs: Add xfs_break_layouts() " Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220918225731.GG3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-19 16:11 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220919212959.GL3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220921221416.GT3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-21 22:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20220923001846.GX3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-23 0:41 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220923021012.GZ3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-23 9:38 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-23 23:06 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220925235407.GA3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-26 14:10 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-29 23:33 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-30 13:41 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-30 17:56 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-30 18:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-30 18:46 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-03 7:55 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-23 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20220926003430.GB3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-26 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:02 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] fsdax: Rework dax_layout_busy_page() to dax_zap_mappings() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] fsdax: Update dax_insert_entry() calling convention to return an error Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] fsdax: Cleanup dax_associate_entry() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] fsdax: Rework dax_insert_entry() calling convention Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] fsdax: Manage pgmap references at entry insertion and deletion Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:18 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 21:38 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 22:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:14 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 2:17 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 17:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 21:54 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 1:36 ` Dave Chinner
2022-09-23 2:01 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 13:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 16:29 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 19:03 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 19:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-27 6:07 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] devdax: Minor warning fixups Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] devdax: Move address_space helpers to the DAX core Dan Williams
2022-09-27 6:20 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-29 22:38 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] dax: Prep mapping helpers for compound pages Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:19 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] devdax: add PUD support to the DAX mapping infrastructure Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] devdax: Use dax_insert_entry() + dax_delete_mapping_entry() Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:48 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 22:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:15 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] mm/memremap_pages: Support initializing pages to a zero reference count Dan Williams
2022-09-21 15:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 23:45 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:03 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2022-09-22 0:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:34 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 1:36 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-22 2:34 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-26 6:17 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-22 0:13 ` John Hubbard
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] fsdax: Delete put_devmap_managed_page_refs() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] mm/gup: Drop DAX pgmap accounting Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Fix the DAX-gup mistake Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 16:50 ` Dan Williams
2022-11-09 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-09 11:38 ` Jan Kara
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