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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-trace-kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 audit@vger.kernel.org,
	 LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	 selinux@vger.kernel.org,  bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,  Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm()
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 12:52:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874jabdygo.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJ_RPg_xTjuO=+3G=4auZkS-t-F2WTs18rU2PbVdJVbdQ@mail.gmail.com> (Alexei Starovoitov's message of "Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:35:19 -0700")

Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:57 PM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:52 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> > > Quoted from Linus [0]:
>> > >
>> > >   Since user space can randomly change their names anyway, using locking
>> > >   was always wrong for readers (for writers it probably does make sense
>> > >   to have some lock - although practically speaking nobody cares there
>> > >   either, but at least for a writer some kind of race could have
>> > >   long-term mixed results
>> >
>> > Ugh.
>> > Ick.
>> >
>> > This code is buggy.
>> >
>> > I won't argue that Linus is wrong, about removing the
>> > task_lock.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately strscpy_pad does not work properly with the
>> > task_lock removed, and buf_size larger that TASK_COMM_LEN.
>> > There is a race that will allow reading past the end
>> > of tsk->comm, if we read while tsk->common is being
>> > updated.
>>
>> It appears so. Thanks for pointing it out. Additionally, other code,
>> such as the BPF helper bpf_get_current_comm(), also uses strscpy_pad()
>> directly without the task_lock. It seems we should change that as
>> well.
>
> Hmm. What race do you see?
> If lock is removed from __get_task_comm() it probably can be removed from
> __set_task_comm() as well.
> And both are calling strscpy_pad to write and read comm.
> So I don't see how it would read past sizeof(comm),
> because 'buf' passed into __set_task_comm is NUL-terminated.
> So the concurrent read will find it.

The read may race with a write that is changing the location
of '\0'.  Especially if the new value is shorter than
the old value.

If you are performing lockless reads and depending upon a '\0'
terminator without limiting yourself to the size of the buffer
there needs to be a big fat comment as to how in the world
you are guaranteed that a '\0' inside the buffer will always
be found.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-02 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02  2:37 [PATCH 0/6] kernel: Avoid memcpy of task comm Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  3:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-02  6:56     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 16:35       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-02 17:52         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2024-06-02 18:23           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-03 11:35             ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-10 12:34             ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-10 23:01               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-02 17:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-04 13:02   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-04 20:01   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-05  2:48     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/6] tracing: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 21:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:40             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04  2:35               ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] auditsc: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:03   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 4/6] security: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 22:06   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 5/6] bpftool: Make task comm always be NUL-terminated Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 21:01   ` Quentin Monnet
2024-06-02  2:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] selftests/bpf: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao

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