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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	 Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Unifying sources of page temperature information - what info is actually wanted?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:06:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874j0t2dxy.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f091e09a-1f39-48ee-8968-8f616d8102a6@amd.com> (Bharata B. Rao's message of "Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:40:36 +0530")

Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com> writes:

> On 16-Feb-25 12:19 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Give me up to X hotish pages from a slow tier (greater than a specific measure
>>>> of temperature)
>> Because the hot pages may be available upon page accessing (such
>> PROT_NONE
>> page fault), the interface may be "push" style instead of "pull" style,
>> e.g.,
>> int register_hot_page_handler(void (*handler)(struct page *hot_page,
>> int temperature));
>
> Yes, push model appears natural to me given that there are producers
> who are themselves consumers as well.
>
> Let's take an example of access being detected by PTE scan by DAMON
> first and LRU and hot page promotion subsystems have registered
> handlers for hot page info.
>
> Now if hot page promotion handler gets called first and if it promotes
> the page, calling LRU registered handler still makes sense? May be not
> I suppose.
>
> On the other hand if LRU subsystem handler gets first and it
> adjusts/modifies the hot page's list, it would still make sense to
> activate the hot page promotion handler to check for possible
> promotion.
>
> Is this how you are envisioning the different consumers of hot page
> access info could work/cooperate?

Sorry, I have no idea about what is the right behavior now.  It appears
hard to coordinate different consumers.

In theory, we can promote the hottest pages while activate (in LRU
lists) the warm pages.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-23 10:57 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Overhauling hot page detection and promotion based on PTE A bit scanning Raghavendra K T
2025-01-23 18:20 ` SeongJae Park
2025-01-24  8:54   ` Raghavendra K T
2025-01-24 18:05     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24  5:53 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-01-24  9:02   ` Raghavendra K T
2025-01-27  7:01     ` David Rientjes
2025-01-27  7:11       ` Raghavendra K T
2025-02-06  3:14   ` Yuanchu Xie
2025-01-26  2:27 ` Huang, Ying
2025-01-27  5:11   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-01-27 18:34     ` SeongJae Park
2025-02-07  8:10       ` Huang, Ying
2025-02-07  9:06         ` Gregory Price
2025-02-07 19:52         ` SeongJae Park
2025-02-07 19:06   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-14  1:56     ` Raghavendra K T
2025-03-14  2:12       ` Raghavendra K T
2025-01-31 12:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-31 13:09   ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Unifying sources of page temperature information - what info is actually wanted? Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-05  6:24     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-02-05 16:05       ` Johannes Weiner
2025-02-06  6:46         ` SeongJae Park
2025-02-06 15:30         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07  9:50       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-16  7:04       ` Huang, Ying
2025-02-16  6:49     ` Huang, Ying
2025-02-17  4:10       ` Bharata B Rao
2025-02-17  8:06         ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2025-03-14 14:24       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-17 22:34         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-02-03  2:23   ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Overhauling hot page detection and promotion based on PTE A bit scanning Raghavendra K T
2025-04-07  3:13 ` Bharata B Rao

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