From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: page: add volatile memory copy methods
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:42:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874io3rwl3.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DG1ZJ1350EMS.1S1360PA496QG@garyguo.net>
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
> On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 1:48 PM GMT, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 12:33 PM GMT, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>> When copying data from buffers that are mapped to user space, or from
>>>> buffers that are used for dma, it is impossible to guarantee absence of
>>>> concurrent memory operations on those buffers. Copying data to/from `Page`
>>>> from/to these buffers would be undefined behavior if regular memcpy
>>>> operations are used.
>>>>
>>>> The operation can be made well defined, if the buffers that potentially
>>>> observe racy operations can be said to exist outside of any Rust
>>>> allocation. For this to be true, the kernel must only interact with the
>>>> buffers using raw volatile reads and writes.
>>>>
>>>> Add methods on `Page` to read and write the contents using volatile
>>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>> Also improve clarity by specifying additional requirements on
>>>> `read_raw`/`write_raw` methods regarding concurrent operations on involved
>>>> buffers.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> rust/kernel/page.rs | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 53 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/rust/kernel/page.rs b/rust/kernel/page.rs
>>>> index 432fc0297d4a8..6568a0d3b3baa 100644
>>>> --- a/rust/kernel/page.rs
>>>> +++ b/rust/kernel/page.rs
>>>> @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
>>>> bindings,
>>>> error::code::*,
>>>> error::Result,
>>>> + ffi::c_void,
>>>> uaccess::UserSliceReader,
>>>> };
>>>> use core::{
>>>> @@ -260,6 +261,8 @@ fn with_pointer_into_page<T>(
>>>> /// # Safety
>>>> ///
>>>> /// * Callers must ensure that `dst` is valid for writing `len` bytes.
>>>> + /// * Callers must ensure that there are no other concurrent reads or writes to/from the
>>>> + /// destination memory region.
>>>> /// * Callers must ensure that this call does not race with a write to the same page that
>>>> /// overlaps with this read.
>>>> pub unsafe fn read_raw(&self, dst: *mut u8, offset: usize, len: usize) -> Result {
>>>> @@ -274,6 +277,30 @@ pub unsafe fn read_raw(&self, dst: *mut u8, offset: usize, len: usize) -> Result
>>>> })
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> + /// Maps the page and reads from it into the given IO memory region using volatile memory
>>>> + /// operations.
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// This method will perform bounds checks on the page offset. If `offset .. offset+len` goes
>>>> + /// outside of the page, then this call returns [`EINVAL`].
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// # Safety
>>>> + /// Callers must ensure that:
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// * The destination memory region is outside of any Rust memory allocation.
>>>> + /// * The destination memory region is writable.
>>>> + /// * This call does not race with a write to the same source page that overlaps with this read.
>>>> + pub unsafe fn read_raw_toio(&self, dst: *mut u8, offset: usize, len: usize) -> Result {
>>>> + self.with_pointer_into_page(offset, len, move |src| {
>>>> + // SAFETY: If `with_pointer_into_page` calls into this closure, then
>>>> + // it has performed a bounds check and guarantees that `src` is
>>>> + // valid for `len` bytes.
>>>> + //
>>>> + // There caller guarantees that there is no data race at the source.
>>>> + unsafe { bindings::memcpy_toio(dst.cast::<c_void>(), src.cast::<c_void>(), len) };
>>>
>>> I feel that this should be a generic utility that integrates with our IO infra
>>> that allows you to copy/from IO to a slice.
>>
>> While that might also be useful, for my particular use case I am copying
>> between two pages. One is mapped from user space, the other one is
>> allocated by a driver. No slices involved. Pasting for reference [1]:
>
> Then what you need is a byte-wise atomic memcpy, not memcpy_{from,to}io.
Can you elaborate on how you get to this requirement?
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-30 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 12:33 Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-30 13:10 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 13:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-30 14:14 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 14:42 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2026-01-30 15:04 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 15:23 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-30 15:48 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 16:20 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-30 21:41 ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-31 7:22 ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-31 13:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 16:09 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-31 20:30 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 20:48 ` Gary Guo
2026-01-31 21:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-03 1:07 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-04 13:16 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-04 13:48 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-04 15:58 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-04 16:12 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-12 14:21 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 16:26 ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-31 20:14 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 13:19 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 16:43 ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-31 19:10 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-31 19:30 ` Boqun Feng
2026-01-31 20:20 ` Andreas Hindborg
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