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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	 Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	 "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: Remember young/dirty bit for page migrations
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:49:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735dvd4g3.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B21352C-2BE6-4070-BB6B-C1B7A5D4D225@gmail.com> (Nadav Amit's message of "Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:52:49 -0700")

Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> writes:

> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:32:48AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 06:00:58PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>> diff --git a/mm/migrate_device.c b/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>>> index 27fb37d65476..699f821b8443 100644
>>>>> --- a/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/migrate_device.c
>>>>> @@ -221,6 +221,10 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp,
>>>>> 			else
>>>>> 				entry = make_readable_migration_entry(
>>>>> 							page_to_pfn(page));
>>>>> +			if (pte_young(pte))
>>>>> +				entry = make_migration_entry_young(entry);
>>>>> +			if (pte_dirty(pte))
>>>>> +				entry = make_migration_entry_dirty(entry);
>>>>> 			swp_pte = swp_entry_to_pte(entry);
>>>>> 			if (pte_present(pte)) {
>>>>> 				if (pte_soft_dirty(pte))
>>>> 
>>>> This change needs to be wrapped with pte_present() at least..
>>>> 
>>>> I also just noticed that this change probably won't help anyway because:
>>>> 
>>>>  (1) When ram->device, the pte will finally be replaced with a device
>>>>      private entry, and device private entry does not yet support A/D, it
>>>>      means A/D will be dropped again,
>>>> 
>>>>  (2) When device->ram, we are missing information on either A/D bits, or
>>>>      even if device private entries start to suport A/D, it's still not
>>>>      clear whether we should take device read/write into considerations
>>>>      too on the page A/D bits to be accurate.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I'll probably keep the code there for completeness, but I think it
>>>> won't really help much until more things are done.
>>> 
>>> It appears that there are more issues.  Between "pte = *ptep" and pte
>>> clear, CPU may set A/D bit in PTE, so we may need to update pte when
>>> clearing PTE.
>> 
>> Agreed, I didn't see it a huge problem with current code, but it should be
>> better in that way.
>> 
>>> And I don't find the TLB is flushed in some cases after PTE is cleared.
>> 
>> I think it's okay to not flush tlb if pte not present.  But maybe you're
>> talking about something else?
>
> I think Huang refers to situation in which the PTE is cleared, still not
> flushed, and then A/D is being set by the hardware.

No.  The situation in my mind is PTE with A/D set is cleared, not
flushed.  Then a parallel mprotect or munmap may cause race conditions.
As Alistair pointed out in another thread [1], there is TLB flushing
after PTL unlocked.  But I think we need to flush TLB before unlock.
This has been fixed in Alistair's latest version [2].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87r11gvrx6.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/6e77914685ede036c419fa65b6adc27f25a6c3e9.1660635033.git-series.apopple@nvidia.com/

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-17  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09 22:00 [PATCH v3 0/7] mm: Remember a/d bits for migration entries Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm/x86: Use SWP_TYPE_BITS in 3-level swap macros Peter Xu
2022-08-10  1:13   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mm/swap: Comment all the ifdef in swapops.h Peter Xu
2022-08-10  1:19   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mm/swap: Add swp_offset_pfn() to fetch PFN from swap entry Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:04   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 13:17     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mm/thp: Carry over dirty bit when thp splits on pmd Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:24   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 15:13     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: Remember young/dirty bit for page migrations Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:30   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 15:19     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-11 15:19   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-12  2:32     ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-15 19:18       ` Peter Xu
2022-08-15 20:52         ` Nadav Amit
2022-08-15 21:03           ` Nadav Amit
2022-08-18 16:39             ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-17  1:49           ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2022-08-09 22:00 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mm/swap: Cache maximum swapfile size when init swap Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:33   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 13:23     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-09 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm/swap: Cache swap migration A/D bits support Peter Xu
2022-08-10  6:37   ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-10 17:09     ` Peter Xu

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