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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+ece2915262061d6e0ac1@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	<syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	 Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	 Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	 Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/stackdepot: stackdepot: don't use __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from __stack_depot_save() if atomic context
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:07:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qj7zz8z.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3a5b8be-8a45-a72c-334d-0462cdc582d5@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (Tetsuo Handa's message of "Mon, 22 May 2023 20:33:49 +0900")

Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> writes:

> On 2023/05/22 12:07, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> writes:
>> 
>>> On 2023/05/22 11:13, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>> Any atomic allocation used by KASAN needs to drop __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM bit.
>>>>> Where do we want to drop this bit (in the caller side, or in the callee side)?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  I think we should fix the KASAN.  Maybe define a new GFP_XXX
>>>> (instead of GFP_ATOMIC) for debug code?  The debug code may be called at
>>>> almost arbitrary places, and wakeup_kswap() isn't safe to be called in
>>>> some situations.
>>>
>>> What do you think about removing __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT?
>>> Recent reports indicate that atomic allocations (GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT) are not safe
>>> enough to think "atomic". They just don't do direct reclaim, but they do take spinlocks.
>>> Removing __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT simplifies locking dependency and
>>> reduces latency of atomic allocations (which is important when called from "atomic" context).
>>> I consider that memory allocations which do not do direct reclaim should be geared towards
>>> less locking dependency.
>> 
>> Except debug code, where do you find locking issues for waking up kswapd?
>
> I'm not aware of lockdep reports except debug code.
>
> But due to too many locking dependency, lockdep gives up tracking all dependency (e.g.
>
>   https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=8a249628ae32ea7de3a2
>   https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=a70a6358abd2c3f9550f
>   https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=9bbbacfbf1e04d5221f7
>   https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=b04c9ffbbd2f303d00d9
>
> ). I want to reduce locking patterns where possible. pgdat->{kswapd,kcompactd}_wait.lock
> and zonelist_update_seq are candidates which need not to be held from interrupt context.

Why is it not safe to wake up kswapd/kcompactd from interrupt context?

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-23  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <000000000000cef3a005fc1bcc80@google.com>
2023-05-20 11:02 ` [syzbot] [kernel?] possible deadlock in scheduler_tick (2) Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 11:33   ` [PATCH] lib/stackdepot: stackdepot: don't use __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM from __stack_depot_save() if atomic context Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 13:14     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-20 22:44       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-22  2:13         ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-22  2:47           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-22  3:07             ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-22 11:33               ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-23  0:07                 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-05-23  0:45                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-23  1:10                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-24 12:09             ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-27 15:25     ` [PATCH] kasan,kmsan: remove __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM usage from kasan/kmsan Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-29  1:07       ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-31 13:31         ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-09 22:31           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <19d6c965-a9cf-16a5-6537-a02823d67c0a@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2023-06-12  1:30               ` [PATCH v3] lib/stackdepot: fix gfp flags manipulation in __stack_depot_save() Huang, Ying
2023-06-21 12:56               ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-21 14:07                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 14:42                   ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-06-21 14:54                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 15:37             ` [PATCH] kasan,kmsan: remove __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM usage from kasan/kmsan Alexander Potapenko
2023-05-27 21:01 ` [syzbot] [ntfs3?] possible deadlock in scheduler_tick (2) syzbot

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