From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <david@redhat.com>,
<hughd@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 20:21:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q042x1h.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a37d4a9-eef8-4fe0-aeb0-fa95c33b305a@huawei.com> (Kefeng Wang's message of "Fri, 25 Oct 2024 18:21:44 +0800")
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
> On 2024/10/25 15:47, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 2024/10/25 10:59, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>> Hi, Kefeng,
>>>> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> +CC Huang Ying,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024/10/23 6:56, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 4:10 AM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=512
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is not good enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
>>>>>>>>>>>> *inode, pgoff_t index,
>>>>>>>>>>>> * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
>>>>>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
>>>>>>>>>>>> - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
>>>>>>>>>>>> + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
>>>>>>>>>>>> flush_dcache_folio(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
>>>>>>>>>>> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
>>>>>>>>>> index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when use folio_zero_user(), the performance is vary bad with above
>>>>>>>>> fallocate test(mount huge=always),
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range clear_highpage folio_zero_user
>>>>>>>>> real 0m1.214s 0m1.111s 0m3.159s
>>>>>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
>>>>>>>>> sys 0m1.210s 0m1.109s 0m3.152s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried with addr_hint = 0/index << PAGE_SHIFT, no obvious different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting. Does your kernel have preemption disabled or
>>>>>>>> preemption_debug enabled?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ARM64 server, CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
>>>>>> this explains why the performance is much worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If not, it makes me wonder whether folio_zero_user() in
>>>>>>>> alloc_anon_folio() is actually improving performance as expected,
>>>>>>>> compared to the simpler folio_zero() you plan to implement. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, maybe, the folio_zero_user(was clear_huge_page) is from
>>>>>>> 47ad8475c000 ("thp: clear_copy_huge_page"), so original clear_huge_page
>>>>>>> is used in HugeTLB, clear PUD size maybe spend many time, but for PMD or
>>>>>>> other size of large folio, cond_resched is not necessary since we
>>>>>>> already have some folio_zero_range() to clear large folio, and no issue
>>>>>>> was reported.
>>>>>> probably worth an optimization. calling cond_resched() for each page
>>>>>> seems too aggressive and useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> After some test, I think the cond_resched() is not the root cause,
>>>>> no performance gained with batched cond_resched(), even I kill
>>>>> cond_resched() from process_huge_page, no improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I unconditionally use clear_gigantic_page() in
>>>>> folio_zero_user(patched), there is big improvement with above
>>>>> fallocate on tmpfs(mount huge=always), also I test some other testcase,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) case-anon-w-seq-mt: (2M PMD THP)
>>>>>
>>>>> base:
>>>>> real 0m2.490s 0m2.254s 0m2.272s
>>>>> user 1m59.980s 2m23.431s 2m18.739s
>>>>> sys 1m3.675s 1m15.462s 1m15.030s
>>>>>
>>>>> patched:
>>>>> real 0m2.234s 0m2.225s 0m2.159s
>>>>> user 2m56.105s 2m57.117s 3m0.489s
>>>>> sys 0m17.064s 0m17.564s 0m16.150s
>>>>>
>>>>> Patched kernel win on sys and bad in user, but real is almost same,
>>>>> maybe a little better than base.
>>>> We can find user time difference. That means the original cache hot
>>>> behavior still applies on your system.
>>>> However, it appears that the performance to clear page from end to
>>>> begin
>>>> is really bad on your system.
>>>> So, I suggest to revise the current implementation to use sequential
>>>> clearing as much as possible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I test case-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb for copy_user_large_folio()
>>>
>>> base:
>>> real 0m6.259s 0m6.197s 0m6.316s
>>> user 1m31.176s 1m27.195s 1m29.594s
>>> sys 7m44.199s 7m51.490s 8m21.149s
>>>
>>> patched(use copy_user_gigantic_page for 2M hugetlb too)
>>> real 0m3.182s 0m3.002s 0m2.963s
>>> user 1m19.456s 1m3.107s 1m6.447s
>>> sys 2m59.222s 3m10.899s 3m1.027s
>>>
>>> and sequential copy is better than the current implementation,
>>> so I will use sequential clear and copy.
>> Sorry, it appears that you misunderstanding my suggestion. I
>> suggest to
>> revise process_huge_page() to use more sequential memory clearing and
>> copying to improve its performance on your platform.
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Huang, Ying
>>
>>>>> 2) case-anon-w-seq-hugetlb:(2M PMD HugeTLB)
>>>>>
>>>>> base:
>>>>> real 0m5.175s 0m5.117s 0m4.856s
>>>>> user 5m15.943s 5m7.567s 4m29.273s
>>>>> sys 2m38.503s 2m21.949s 2m21.252s
>>>>>
>>>>> patched:
>>>>> real 0m4.966s 0m4.841s 0m4.561s
>>>>> user 6m30.123s 6m9.516s 5m49.733s
>>>>> sys 0m58.503s 0m47.847s 0m46.785s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This case is similar to the case1.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) fallocate hugetlb 20G (2M PMD HugeTLB)
>>>>>
>>>>> base:
>>>>> real 0m3.016s 0m3.019s 0m3.018s
>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
>>>>> sys 0m3.009s 0m3.012s 0m3.010s
>>>>>
>>>>> patched:
>>>>>
>>>>> real 0m1.136s 0m1.136s 0m1.136s
>>>>> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.004s
>>>>> sys 0m1.133s 0m1.133s 0m1.129s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is big win on patched kernel, and it is similar to above tmpfs
>>>>> test, so maybe we could revert the commit c79b57e462b5 ("mm: hugetlb:
>>>>> clear target sub-page last when clearing huge page").
>
> I tried the following changes,
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index 66cf855dee3f..e5cc75adfa10 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -6777,7 +6777,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
> base = 0;
> l = n;
> /* Process subpages at the end of huge page */
> - for (i = nr_pages - 1; i >= 2 * n; i--) {
> + for (i = 2 * n; i < nr_pages; i++) {
> cond_resched();
> ret = process_subpage(addr + i * PAGE_SIZE, i,
> arg);
> if (ret)
>
> Since n = 0, so the copying is from start to end now, but not
> improvement for case-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb,
>
> and if use copy_user_gigantic_pager, the time reduced from 6s to 3s
>
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index fe21bd3beff5..2c6532d21d84 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -6876,10 +6876,7 @@ int copy_user_large_folio(struct folio *dst,
> struct folio *src,
> .vma = vma,
> };
>
> - if (unlikely(nr_pages > MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES))
> - return copy_user_gigantic_page(dst, src, addr_hint,
> vma, nr_pages);
> -
> - return process_huge_page(addr_hint, nr_pages, copy_subpage, &arg);
> + return copy_user_gigantic_page(dst, src, addr_hint, vma, nr_pages);
> }
It appears that we have code generation issue here. Can you check it?
Whether code is inlined in the same way?
Maybe we can start with
modified mm/memory.c
@@ -6714,7 +6714,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__might_fault);
* operation. The target subpage will be processed last to keep its
* cache lines hot.
*/
-static inline int process_huge_page(
+static __always_inline int process_huge_page(
unsigned long addr_hint, unsigned int nr_pages,
int (*process_subpage)(unsigned long addr, int idx, void *arg),
void *arg)
--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-25 12:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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