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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Balbir Singh" <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	"Francois Dugast" <francois.dugast@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/7] mm/zone_device: Add order argument to folio_free callback
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 12:46:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86D91C8B-C3EA-4836-8DC2-829499477618@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260112165001.GG745888@ziepe.ca>

On 12 Jan 2026, at 11:50, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:31:04AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>>> folio_free()
>>>
>>> 1) Allocator finds free memory
>>> 2) zone_device_page_init() allocates the memory and makes refcount=1
>>> 3) __folio_put() knows the recount 0.
>>> 4) free_zone_device_folio() calls folio_free(), but it doesn't
>>>    actually need to undo prep_compound_page() because *NOTHING* can
>>>    use the page pointer at this point.
>>> 5) Driver puts the memory back into the allocator and now #1 can
>>>    happen. It knows how much memory to put back because folio->order
>>>    is valid from #2
>>> 6) #1 happens again, then #2 happens again and the folio is in the
>>>    right state for use. The successor #2 fully undoes the work of the
>>>    predecessor #2.
>>
>> But how can a successor #2 undo the work if the second #1 only allocates
>> half of the original folio? For example, an order-9 at PFN 0 is
>> allocated and freed, then an order-8 at PFN 0 is allocated and another
>> order-8 at PFN 256 is allocated. How can two #2s undo the same order-9
>> without corrupting each other’s data?
>
> What do you mean? The fundamental rule is you can't read the folio or
> the order outside folio_free once it's refcount reaches 0.

There is no such a rule. In core MM, folio_split(), which splits a high
order folio to low order ones, freezes the folio (turning refcount to 0)
and manipulates the folio order and all tail pages compound_head to
restructure the folio. Your fundamental rule breaks this.
Allowing compound information to stay after a folio is freed means
you cannot tell whether a folio is under split or freed.

>
> So the successor #2 will write updated heads and order to the order 8
> pages at PFN 0 and the ones starting at PFN 256 will remain with
> garbage.
>
> This is OK because nothing is allowed to read them as their refcount
> is 0.
>
> If later PFN256 is allocated then it will get updated head and order
> at the same time it's refcount becomes 1.
>
> There is corruption and they don't corrupt each other's data.
>
>>> If the allocator is using the struct page memory then step #5 should
>>> also clean up the struct page with the allocator data before returning
>>> it to the allocator.
>>
>> Do you mean ->folio_free() callback should undo prep_compound_page()
>> instead?
>
> I wouldn't say undo, I was very careful to say it needs to get the
> struct page memory into a state that the allocator algorithm expects,
> whatever that means.
>
> Jason


Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-11 20:55 [PATCH v4 0/7] Enable THP support in drm_pagemap Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] mm/zone_device: Add order argument to folio_free callback Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 22:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-12  0:19     ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-12  0:51       ` Zi Yan
2026-01-12  1:37         ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-12  4:50         ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-12 13:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 16:31           ` Zi Yan
2026-01-12 16:50             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 17:46               ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-01-12 18:25                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 18:55                   ` Zi Yan
2026-01-12 19:28                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 21:49           ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mm/zone_device: Add free_zone_device_folio_prepare() helper Francois Dugast
2026-01-12  0:44   ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-12  1:16     ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-12  2:15       ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-12  2:37         ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-12  2:50           ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] fs/dax: Use " Francois Dugast
2026-01-12  4:14   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] drm/pagemap: Unlock and put folios when possible Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] drm/pagemap: Add helper to access zone_device_data Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] drm/pagemap: Correct cpages calculation for migrate_vma_setup Francois Dugast
2026-01-12 14:17   ` Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 20:55 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] drm/pagemap: Enable THP support for GPU memory migration Francois Dugast
2026-01-11 21:37   ` Matthew Brost

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