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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:59:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86516155-f2d9-4e8d-9d27-bdcb59e2d129@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250724084441.380404-1-link@vivo.com>

On 24.07.25 10:44, Huan Yang wrote:
> Summary
> ==
> This patchset reuses page_type to store migrate entry count during the
> period from migrate entry setup to removal, enabling accelerated VMA
> traversal when removing migrate entries, following a similar principle to
> early termination when folio is unmapped in try_to_migrate.

I absolutely detest (ab)using page types for that, so no from my side 
unless I am missing something important.

> 
> In my self-constructed test scenario, the migration time can be reduced

How relevant is that in practice?

> from over 150+ms to around 30+ms, achieving nearly a 70% performance
> improvement. Additionally, the flame graph shows that the proportion of
> remove_migration_ptes can be reduced from 80%+ to 60%+.
> 
> Notice: migrate entry specifically refers to migrate PTE entry, as large
> folio are not supported page type and 0 mapcount reuse.
> 
> Principle
> ==
> When a page removes all PTEs in try_to_migrate and sets up a migrate PTE
> entry, we can determine whether the traversal of remaining VMAs can be
> terminated early by checking if mapcount is zero. This optimization
> helps improve performance during migration.
> 
> However, when removing migrate PTE entries and setting up PTEs for the
> destination folio in remove_migration_ptes, there is no such information
> available to assist in deciding whether the traversal of remaining VMAs
> can be ended early. Therefore, it is necessary to traversal all VMAs
> associated with this folio.

Yes, we don't know how many migration entries are still pointing at the 
page.

> 
> In reality, when a folio is fully unmapped and before all migrate PTE
> entries are removed, the mapcount will always be zero. Since page_type
> and mapcount share a union, and referring to folio_mapcount, we can
> reuse page_type to record the number of migrate PTE entries of the
> current folio in the system as long as it's not a large folio. This
> reuse does not affect calls to folio_mapcount, which will always return
> zero.
 > > Therefore, we can set the folio's page_type to PGTY_mgt_entry when
> try_to_migrate completes, the folio is already unmapped, and it's not a
> large folio. The remaining 24 bits can then be used to record the number
> of migrate PTE entries generated by try_to_migrate.

In the future the page type will no longer overlay the mapcount and, 
consequently, be sticky.

> 
> Then, in remove_migration_ptes, when the nr_mgt_entry count drops to
> zero, we can terminate the VMA traversal early.
> 
> It's important to note that we need to initialize the folio's page_type
> to PGTY_mgt_entry and set the migrate entry count only while holding the
> rmap walk lock.This is because during the lock period, we can prevent
> new VMA fork (which would increase migrate entries) and VMA unmap
> (which would decrease migrate entries).

The more I read about PGTY_mgt_entry, the more I hate it.

> 
> However, I doubt there is actually an additional critical section here, for
> example anon:
> 
> Process Parent                          fork
> try_to_migrate
>                                          anon_vma_clone
>                                              write_lock
>                                                  avc_inster_tree tail
>                                          ....
>      folio_lock_anon_vma_read             copy_pte_range
>          vma_iter                            pte_lock
>                  ....                           pte_present copy
>                                              ...
>                  pte_lock
>                      new forked pte clean
> ....
> remove_migration_ptes
>      rmap_walk_anon_lock
> 
> If my understanding is correct and such a critical section exists, it
> shouldn't cause any issues—newly added PTEs can still be properly
> removed and converted into migrate entries.
> 
> But in this:
> 
> Process Parent                          fork
> try_to_migrate
>                                          anon_vma_clone
>                                              write_lock
>                                                  avc_inster_tree
>                                          ....
>      folio_lock_anon_vma_read             copy_pte_range
>          vma_iter
>                  pte_lock
>                      migrate entry set
>                  ....                        pte_lock
>                                                  pte_nonpresent copy
>                                              ....
> ....
> remove_migration_ptes
>      rmap_walk_anon_lock

Just a note: migration entries also apply to non-anon folios.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-24  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24  8:44 Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] mm: introduce PAGE_TYPE_SHIFT Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] mm: add page_type value helper Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] mm/rmap: simplify rmap_walk invoke Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] mm/rmap: add args in rmap_walk_control done hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] mm/rmap: introduce exit hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] mm/rmap: introduce migrate_walk_arg Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] mm/migrate: rename rmap_walk_arg folio Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] mm/migrate: infrastructure for migrate entry page_type Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] mm/migrate: apply " Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:59 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-24  9:09   ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:36           ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:56               ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:58                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 10:01                   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:29   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-25  1:37     ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-25  1:47       ` Huan Yang
2025-07-25  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand

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