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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Evangelos Petrongonas <epetron@amazon.de>,
	 Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Jason Miu <jasonmiu@google.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, nh-open-source@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kho: add support for deferred struct page init
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2026 15:05:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861pk885zw.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bDDEZ5a+LJNDVMtKFtQ1D9rP6rJqU064eoru=a9eHpaAQ@mail.gmail.com> (Pasha Tatashin's message of "Tue, 30 Dec 2025 11:05:05 -0500")

On Tue, Dec 30 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 4:03 PM Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
[...]
>> >
>> > I kind of do not like relying on magic to decide whether to initialize
>> > the struct page. I would prefer to avoid this magic marker altogether:
>> > i.e. struct page is either initialized or not, not halfway
>> > initialized, etc.
>>
>> The magic is purely sanity checking. It is not used to decide anything
>> other than to make sure this is actually a KHO page. I don't intend to
>> change that. My point is, if we make sure the KHO pages are properly
>> initialized during MM init, then restoring can actually be a very cheap
>> operation, where you only do the sanity checking. You can even put the
>> magic check behind CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG if you want, but I think
>> it is useful enough to keep in production systems too.
>
> It is part of a critical hotpath during blackout, should really be
> behind CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG
>
>> > Magic is not reliable. During machine reset in many firmware
>> > implementations, and in every kexec reboot, memory is not zeroed. The
>> > kernel usually allocates vmemmap using exactly the same pages, so
>> > there is just too high a chance of getting magic values accidentally
>> > inherited from the previous boot.
>>
>> I don't think that can happen. All the pages are zeroed when
>> initialized, which will clear the magic. We should only be setting the
>> magic on an initialized struct page.
>
> This can happen due to bugs when we use a partially initialized
> "struct page", something that Mike have been looking to do. So, pass
> some information in a struct page before it is fully initialized.

The magic is checked at restore time though, and by then all non-KHO
pages should be properly initialized and have their magic cleared.

Also, the magic is cleared by kho_restore_folio(), so this can only ever
happen for pages that were preserved but not restored in the previous
boot. I don't think that is a common use case in the first place.

[...]

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-02 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-16  8:49 Evangelos Petrongonas
2025-12-16 10:53 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-16 11:57 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-16 14:26   ` Evangelos Petrongonas
2025-12-16 15:05   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-16 15:19     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-16 15:36       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-16 15:51         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-20  2:27           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-19  9:19         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-19 16:28           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-20  3:20             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-20 14:49               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-22 15:33                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-22 15:55                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-22 16:24                     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-23 17:37                       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-29 21:03                         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-30 16:05                           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-30 16:16                             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-30 16:18                               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-30 17:18                                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-30 18:21                                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-31  9:46                                     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-01-02 14:24                                       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-01-02 14:05                             ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2025-12-30 16:14                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-12-24  7:34 Fadouse
2025-12-29 21:09 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-30 15:05   ` Pasha Tatashin

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