From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org
Cc: lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
mhocko@suse.com, riel@surriel.com, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
jannh@google.com, willy@infradead.org, baohua@kernel.org,
dev.jain@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 12:12:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85094ce2-21a8-4d25-bd96-7d809c5daa3b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02239ca7-9701-4bfa-af0f-dcf0d05a3e89@linux.alibaba.com>
On 25/12/2025 02:48, Baolin Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 2025/12/24 22:07, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 23/12/2025 05:48, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>> Currently, contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young() and
>>> contpte_ptep_clear_flush_young()
>>> only clear the young flag and flush TLBs for PTEs within the contiguous range.
>>> To support batch PTE operations for other sized large folios in the following
>>> patches, adding a new parameter to specify the number of PTEs that map
>>> consecutive
>>> pages of the same large folio in a single VMA and a single page table.
>>>
>>> While we are at it, rename the functions to maintain consistency with other
>>> contpte_*() functions.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 12 ++++++------
>>> arch/arm64/mm/contpte.c | 33 ++++++++++++++++++--------------
>>> 2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> index 445e18e92221..d5fbe72e820a 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> @@ -1648,10 +1648,10 @@ extern void contpte_clear_full_ptes(struct mm_struct
>>> *mm, unsigned long addr,
>>> extern pte_t contpte_get_and_clear_full_ptes(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>> unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep,
>>> unsigned int nr, int full);
>>> -extern int contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> - unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep);
>>> -extern int contpte_ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> - unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep);
>>> +int contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> + unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep, unsigned int nr);
>>> +int contpte_clear_flush_young_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> + unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep, unsigned int nr);
>>> extern void contpte_wrprotect_ptes(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr,
>>> pte_t *ptep, unsigned int nr);
>>> extern int contpte_ptep_set_access_flags(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> @@ -1823,7 +1823,7 @@ static inline int ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct
>>> vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> if (likely(!pte_valid_cont(orig_pte)))
>>> return __ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> - return contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> + return contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes(vma, addr, ptep, CONT_PTES);
>>
>> As per your fixup patch, I agree that nr should be 1 here, not CONT_PTES.
>
> Yes.
>
>>> }
>>> #define __HAVE_ARCH_PTEP_CLEAR_YOUNG_FLUSH
>>> @@ -1835,7 +1835,7 @@ static inline int ptep_clear_flush_young(struct
>>> vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> if (likely(!pte_valid_cont(orig_pte)))
>>> return __ptep_clear_flush_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> - return contpte_ptep_clear_flush_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> + return contpte_clear_flush_young_ptes(vma, addr, ptep, CONT_PTES);
>>
>> And same here.
>>
>>> }
>>> #define wrprotect_ptes wrprotect_ptes
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/contpte.c b/arch/arm64/mm/contpte.c
>>> index e4ddeb46f25d..b929a455103f 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/contpte.c
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/contpte.c
>>> @@ -508,8 +508,9 @@ pte_t contpte_get_and_clear_full_ptes(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>> }
>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(contpte_get_and_clear_full_ptes);
>>> -int contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> - unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep)
>>> +int contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> + unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep,
>>> + unsigned int nr)
>>> {
>>> /*
>>> * ptep_clear_flush_young() technically requires us to clear the access
>>> @@ -518,41 +519,45 @@ int contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young(struct
>>> vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> * contig range when the range is covered by a single folio, we can get
>>> * away with clearing young for the whole contig range here, so we avoid
>>> * having to unfold.
>>> + *
>>> + * The 'nr' means consecutive (present) PTEs that map consecutive pages
>>> + * of the same large folio in a single VMA and a single page table.
>>> */
>>> + unsigned long end = addr + nr * PAGE_SIZE;
>>> int young = 0;
>>> - int i;
>>> - ptep = contpte_align_down(ptep);
>>> - addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr, CONT_PTE_SIZE);
>>> -
>>> - for (i = 0; i < CONT_PTES; i++, ptep++, addr += PAGE_SIZE)
>>> + ptep = contpte_align_addr_ptep(&addr, &end, ptep, nr);
>>> + for (; addr != end; ptep++, addr += PAGE_SIZE)
>>> young |= __ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> return young;
>>> }
>>> -EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young);
>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes);
>>> -int contpte_ptep_clear_flush_young(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> - unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep)
>>> +int contpte_clear_flush_young_ptes(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> + unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep,
>>> + unsigned int nr)
>>> {
>>> int young;
>>> - young = contpte_ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, ptep);
>>> + young = contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes(vma, addr, ptep, nr);
>>> if (young) {
>>> + unsigned long end = addr + nr * PAGE_SIZE;
>>> +
>>> + contpte_align_addr_ptep(&addr, &end, ptep, nr);
>>> /*
>>> * See comment in __ptep_clear_flush_young(); same rationale for
>>> * eliding the trailing DSB applies here.
>>> */
>>> - addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr, CONT_PTE_SIZE);
>>> - __flush_tlb_range_nosync(vma->vm_mm, addr, addr + CONT_PTE_SIZE,
>>> + __flush_tlb_range_nosync(vma->vm_mm, addr, end,
>>> PAGE_SIZE, true, 3);
>>
>> Hmm... The requirement is that we must flush the _page_ if clearing access for a
>> pte that does not have the contiguous bit set, or we must flush the _contpte
>> block_ if clearing access for a pte that does have the contiguous bit set.
>>
>> With your changes, you may call for a large range that covers multiple contpte
>> blocks but only has a single pte in a single contpte block for which the access
>> bit was previously set. But that will cause flushing the TLB for the full range.
>> Could this cause a performance issue? Yes, no, maybe... I think it's unlikely
>> but I wouldn't rule it out in some edge case.
>>
>> I wonder if it's better to track the sub-ranges where access was cleared and
>> only issue tlbi for those sub-ranges? Probably just keep it simple (the way you
>> have done it) until/unless we see an actual problem?
>
> Good question. Indeed, as you said, we flush the TLB per folio now, which might
> increase the flush range. However, I think this approach is relatively
> reasonable for now.
>
> First, the mm-core also tracks the access status per folio, and it's really
> unnecessary to add excessive complexity to track the access status of sub-pages
> (or sub-ranges). I can already imagine that tracking the access status for each
> cont-block range as well as for non-cont pages across the entire large folio
> range, which can be too complicated.
>
> Second, __flush_tlb_range_nosync() is a lightweight flush. I quickly ran a
> measurement on my machine and found that the overhead of
> __flush_tlb_range_nosync() barely changes between nr=16 and nr=256 (both are
> around 40 ns).
I'm not concerned about the direct cost of the flush; I agree it should be
lightweight given we elide the trailing DSB. (although there is a possible case
on older HW that doesn't support TLBI-by-range where this will be converted to
multiple TLBI-by-page instructions and that can cause stalls if there are too
many of them).
My concern was the opportunity cost of evicting the entries for all the
non-accessed parts of the folio from the TLB. But of course, I'm talking
nonsense because the architecture does not allow caching non-accessed entries in
the TLB.
So doesn't sound like a problem; I think we can ignore this. Sorry for the noise.
>
> Therefore, I would still prefer to keep the logic here simple.
Agreed.
Thanks,
Ryan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-02 12:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-23 5:48 [PATCH v4 0/5] support batch checking of references and unmapping " Baolin Wang
2025-12-23 5:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: rmap: support batched checks of the references " Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 13:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-25 1:01 ` Baolin Wang
2025-12-23 5:48 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] arm64: mm: factor out the address and ptep alignment into a new helper Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 13:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-23 5:48 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 10:54 ` [PATCH] arm64: mm: fix passing the incorrect 'CONT_PTES' for non-batched APIs Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 14:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for large folios Ryan Roberts
2025-12-25 2:48 ` Baolin Wang
2026-01-02 12:12 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2025-12-23 5:48 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] arm64: mm: implement the architecture-specific clear_flush_young_ptes() Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 14:09 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-23 5:48 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm: rmap: support batched unmapping for file large folios Baolin Wang
2025-12-24 14:11 ` Ryan Roberts
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