From: <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>
To: rientjes@google.com
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
cesarb@cesarb.net, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
emunson@mgebm.net, penberg@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
riel@redhat.com, mel@csn.ul.ie, dima@android.com,
rebecca@android.com, san@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
vesa.jaaskelainen@nokia.com
Subject: RE: [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 3/3] Used Memory Meter pseudo-device module
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:46:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <84FF21A720B0874AA94B46D76DB98269045568A1@008-AM1MPN1-003.mgdnok.nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201091251300.10232@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext David Rientjes [mailto:rientjes@google.com]
> Sent: 09 January, 2012 21:55
...
>
> Maybe there's some confusion: the proposed oom killer delay that I'm
> referring to here is not upstream and has never been written for global oom
> conditions. My reference to it earlier was as an internal patch that we carry
> on top of memory controller, but what I'm proposing here is for it to be
> implemented globally.
That is explains situation - I know how memcg can handle OOM in cgroup but not about internal patch.
> So if the page allocator can make no progress in freeing memory, we would
> introduce a delay in out_of_memory() if it were configured via a sysctl from
> userspace. When this delay is started, applications waiting on this event can
> be notified with eventfd(2) that the delay has started and they have
> however many milliseconds to address the situation. When they rewrite the
> sysctl, the delay is cleared. If they don't rewrite the sysctl and the delay
> expires, the oom killer proceeds with killing.
>
> What's missing for your use case with this proposal?
Timed delays in multi-process handling in case OOM looks for me fragile construction due to delays are not predicable.
Memcg supports [1] better approach to freeze whole group and kick pointed user-space application to handle it. We planned
to use it as:
- enlarge cgroup
- send SIGTERM to selected "bad" application e.g. based on oom_score
- wait a bit
- send SIGKILL to "bad" application
- reduce group size
But finally default OOM killer starts to work fine.
[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/377708/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-11 12:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-04 17:21 [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 0/3] Used Memory Meter pseudo-device and related changes in MM Leonid Moiseichuk
2012-01-04 17:21 ` [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 1/3] Making si_swapinfo exportable Leonid Moiseichuk
2012-01-04 17:21 ` [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 2/3] MM hook for page allocation and release Leonid Moiseichuk
2012-01-04 20:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-05 6:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-05 11:26 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 12:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-05 15:05 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-05 15:17 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 15:22 ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-04 17:21 ` [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 3/3] Used Memory Meter pseudo-device module Leonid Moiseichuk
2012-01-04 19:55 ` Greg KH
2012-01-09 9:58 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-09 10:09 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-09 10:19 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-09 20:55 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-11 12:46 ` leonid.moiseichuk [this message]
2012-01-11 21:44 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-12 8:32 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-12 20:54 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13 9:34 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-13 11:06 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13 11:51 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-13 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-04 19:56 ` [PATCH 3.2.0-rc1 0/3] Used Memory Meter pseudo-device and related changes in MM Greg KH
2012-01-04 20:17 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-04 20:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-05 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-05 12:22 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 11:47 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 12:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-05 13:02 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 14:57 ` Greg KH
2012-01-05 16:13 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-05 23:10 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-09 8:27 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-06 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-09 8:49 ` leonid.moiseichuk
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