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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/62] mm: Split slab into its own type
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:17:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <842357c1-bec2-654e-c782-569b1fd627b2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YWWX9EoAcaItj0+a@casper.infradead.org>

On 12.10.21 16:13, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 09:25:02AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> What I can see is that we want (and must right now for generic
>>>> infrastructure) keep some members of the the struct page" (e.g., flags,
>>>> _refcount) at the very same place, because generic infrastructure relies on
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that has already been discussed somewhere deep down in folio mail
>>>> threads, but I would have expected that we keep struct-page generic inside
>>>> struct-page and only have inside "struct slab" what's special for "struct
>>>> slab".
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought that we want something like this (but absolutely not
>>>> this):
>>>>
>>>> struct page_header {
>>>> 	unsigned long flags;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> struct page_footer {
>>>> 	atomic_t _refcount;
>>>> #ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
>>>> 	unsigned long memcg_data;
>>>> #endif
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> struct page {
>>>> 	struct page_header header;
>>>> 	uint8_t reserved[$DO_THE_MATH]
>>>> 	struct page_footer footer;
>>>> };
>>>
>>> The problem with this definition is the number of places which refer
>>> to page->flags and must now be churned to page->header.flags.
>>> _refcount is rather better encapsulated, and I'm not entirely sure
>>> how much we'd have to do for memcg_data.  Maybe that was what you meant
>>> by "this but absolutely not this"?  I don't quite understand what that
>>> was supposed to mean.
>>
>> Exactly what you mentioned above (changing all callers) is what I didn't
>> want :)
>>
>> I was thinking of a way to have these "fixed fields" be defined only once,
>> and ideally, perform any access to these fields via the "struct page"
>> instead of via the "struct slab".
>>
>> Like, when wanting to set a page flag with a slab, access them
>>
>> ((struct page *)slab)->flags
>>
>> instead of using slab->flags. Essentially not duplicating these fields and
>> accessing them via the "refined" page types, but only putting a "reserved"
>> placeholder in. That would mean that we wouldn't need patch #1 and #2,
>> because we wouldn't be passing around pgflags (using whatever fancy type we
>> will decide on), all such accesses would continue going via the "struct
>> page" -- because that's where these common fields actually reside in right
>> now at places we cannot simply change -- because common infrastructure (PFN
>> walkers, ...) heavily relyies on the flags, the refcount and even the
>> mapcount (page types) being set accordingly.
> 
> OK, I think I see what you want:
> 
> struct slab {
> 	struct page_header _1;
> 	... slab specific stuff ...
> 	struct page_footer _2;
> };
> 
> and then cast struct slab to struct page inside slab_nid(),
> slab_address(), slab_pgdat(), slab_order() and so on.
> 
> To a certain extent, I think that's just an implementation detail; the
> important part is the use of struct slab, and then calling slab_nid()
> instead of page_nid().  A wrinkle here is that slab does use some of
> the bits in page->flags for its own purposes, eg PG_active becomes
> PG_pfmemalloc for PageSlab pages.
> 
> One of the things I did in the folio patches that I'm not too fond of
> now is:
> 
> struct folio {
> 	union {
> 		struct {
> 			...
> 		};
> 		struct page page;
> 	};
> };
> 
> so that I could do &folio->page instead of casting to struct page.
> But maybe both of these approaches are just bad ideas, and I should do:
> 
> static inline void slab_clear_pfmemalloc(struct slab *slab)
> {
> 	PageClearActive(slab_page(slab));
> }


Yes, that's what I meant.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-12 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 13:45 [PATCH 00/62] Separate struct slab from struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 01/62] mm: Convert page_to_section() to pgflags_section() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 02/62] mm: Add pgflags_nid() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 03/62] mm: Split slab into its own type Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-05 16:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-05 18:48     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-12  7:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-12 14:13         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-12 14:17           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-10-13 18:08             ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-13 18:31               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-14  7:22                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-14 12:44                   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-14 13:08                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 04/62] mm: Add account_slab() and unaccount_slab() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 05/62] mm: Convert virt_to_cache() to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 06/62] mm: Convert __ksize() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 07/62] mm: Use struct slab in kmem_obj_info() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 08/62] mm: Convert check_heap_object() to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 09/62] mm/slub: Convert process_slab() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 10/62] mm/slub: Convert detached_freelist to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 11/62] mm/slub: Convert kfree() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 12/62] mm/slub: Convert __slab_free() to take " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 13/62] mm/slub: Convert new_slab() to return " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 14/62] mm/slub: Convert early_kmem_cache_node_alloc() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/62] mm/slub: Convert kmem_cache_cpu to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 16/62] mm/slub: Convert show_slab_objects() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 17/62] mm/slub: Convert validate_slab() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 18/62] mm/slub: Convert count_partial() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 19/62] mm/slub: Convert bootstrap() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 20/62] mm/slub: Convert __kmem_cache_do_shrink() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 21/62] mm/slub: Convert free_partial() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 22/62] mm/slub: Convert list_slab_objects() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 23/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_alloc_node() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 24/62] mm/slub: Convert get_freelist() to take " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 25/62] mm/slub: Convert node_match() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 26/62] mm/slub: Convert slab flushing to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 27/62] mm/slub: Convert __unfreeze_partials to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 28/62] mm/slub: Convert deactivate_slab() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 29/62] mm/slub: Convert acquire_slab() to take a struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 30/62] mm/slub: Convert partial slab management to struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 31/62] mm/slub: Convert slab freeing " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 32/62] mm/slub: Convert shuffle_freelist " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 33/62] mm/slub: Remove struct page argument to next_freelist_entry() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 34/62] mm/slub: Remove struct page argument from setup_object() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 35/62] mm/slub: Convert freelist_corrupted() to struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 36/62] mm/slub: Convert full slab management " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 37/62] mm/slub: Convert free_consistency_checks() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 38/62] mm/slub: Convert alloc_debug_processing() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 39/62] mm/slub: Convert check_object() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 40/62] mm/slub: Convert on_freelist() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 41/62] mm/slub: Convert check_slab() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 42/62] mm/slub: Convert check_valid_pointer() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 43/62] mm/slub: Convert object_err() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 44/62] mm/slub: Convert print_trailer() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 45/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_err() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 46/62] mm/slub: Convert print_page_info() to print_slab_info() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 47/62] mm/slub: Convert trace() to take a struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 48/62] mm/slub: Convert cmpxchg_double_slab to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 49/62] mm/slub: Convert get_map() and __fill_map() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 50/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_lock() and slab_unlock() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 51/62] mm/slub: Convert setup_page_debug() to setup_slab_debug() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 52/62] mm/slub: Convert pfmemalloc_match() to take a struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 53/62] mm/slub: Remove pfmemalloc_match_unsafe() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 54/62] mm: Convert slab to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 55/62] mm: Convert slob " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 56/62] mm: Convert slub " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 57/62] memcg: Convert object cgroups from struct page to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-11 17:13   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-12  3:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 58/62] mm/kasan: Convert " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 59/62] zsmalloc: Stop using slab fields in struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 60/62] bootmem: Use page->index instead of page->freelist Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 61/62] iommu: Use put_pages_list Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 62/62] mm: Remove slab from struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-11 20:07 ` [PATCH 00/62] Separate struct " Johannes Weiner
2021-10-12  3:30   ` Matthew Wilcox

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