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the message says it is from >> Sapphire Rapids, which is a successor of Ice Lake, so HITM is less >> meaningful than if it came from a pre-IceLake system (see >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAG48ez3RmV6SsVw9oyTXxQXHp3rqtKDk2qwJWo9TGvXCq7Xr-w@mail.gmail.com/). >> >> To me those numbers mainly look like you're accessing a lot more >> cache-cold data. (On pre-IceLake they would indicate cacheline >> bouncing, but I guess here they probably don't.) And that makes sense, >> since before the patch, this path was just moving PTEs around without >> looking at the associated pages/folios; basically more or less like a >> memcpy() on x86-64. But after the patch, for every 8 bytes that you >> copy, you have to load a cacheline from the vmemmap to get the page. > > Yup this is representative of what my investigation is showing. > > I've narrowed it down but want to wait to report until I'm sure... > > But yeah we're doing a _lot_ more work. > > I'm leaning towards disabling except for arm64 atm tbh, seems mremap is > especially sensitive to this (I found issues with this with my abortive mremap > anon merging stuff too, but really expected it there...) > > On assumption arm64 is _definitely_ faster. I wonder if older arm64 arches might > suffer? Are we sure it's not also slower on arm64 with small folios? I would be surprised if it isn't. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb