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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linmiaohe@huawei.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: fix hwpoisoned large folio handling in shrink_folio_list
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 11:35:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <839731C1-90AE-419E-A1A7-B41303E2F239@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90112dc7-8f00-45ec-b742-2f4e551023ca@redhat.com>

On 12 Jun 2025, at 3:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:

> On 11.06.25 19:52, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 11 Jun 2025, at 13:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>
>>>> So __folio_split() has an implicit rule that:
>>>> 1. if the given list is not NULL, the folio cannot be on LRU;
>>>> 2. if the given list is NULL, the folio is on LRU.
>>>>
>>>> And the rule is buried deeply in lru_add_split_folio().
>>>>
>>>> Should we add some checks in __folio_split()?
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> index d3e66136e41a..8ce2734c9ca0 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
>>>> @@ -3732,6 +3732,11 @@ static int __folio_split(struct folio *folio, unsigned int new_order,
>>>>    	VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_locked(folio), folio);
>>>>    	VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_large(folio), folio);
>>>>
>>>> +	if (list && folio_test_lru(folio))
>>>> +		return -EINVAL;
>>>> +	if (!list && !folio_test_lru(folio))
>>>> +		return -EINVAL;
>>>> +
>>>
>>> I guess we currently don't run into that, because whenever a folio is otherwise isolated, there is an additional reference or a page table mapping, so it cannot get split either way (e.g., freezing the refcount fails).
>>>
>>> So maybe these checks would be too early and they should happen after we froze the refcount?
>>
>> But if the caller does the isolation, the additional refcount is OK and
>> can_split_folio() will return true. In addition, __folio_split() does not
>> change folio LRU state, so these two checks are orthogonal to refcount
>> check, right? The placement of them does not matter, but earlier the better
>> to avoid unnecessary work. I see these are sanity checks for callers.
>
> In light of the discussion in this thread, if you have someone that takes the folio off the LRU concurrently, I think we could still run into a race here. Because that could happen just after we passed the test in __folio_split().
>
> That's why I think the test would have to happen when there are no such races possible anymore.

Make sense. Thanks for the explanation.

>
> But the real question is if it is okay to remove the folio from the LRU as done in the patch discussed here ...

I just read through the email thread. IIUC, when deferred_split_scan() split
a THP, it expects the THP is on LRU list. I think it makes sense since
all these THPs are in both the deferred_split_queue and LRU list.
And deferred_split_scan() uses split_folio() without providing a list
to store the after-split folios.

In terms of the patch, since unmap_poisoned_folio() does not handle large
folios, why not just split the large folios and add the after-split folios
to folio_list? Then, the while loop will go over all the after-split folios
one by one.

BTW, unmap_poisoned_folio() is also used in do_migrate_range() from
memory_hotplug.c and there is no guard for large folios either. That
also needs a fix?

Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-12 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11  7:46 Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  7:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  8:29   ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  8:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  9:00       ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-11  9:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  9:24           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 14:30             ` Zi Yan
2025-06-11 17:34               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 17:52                 ` Zi Yan
2025-06-12  7:53                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 15:35                     ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-06-12 15:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12 16:48                         ` Zi Yan
2025-06-16 11:34                           ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-16 11:33                         ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-06-16 19:27                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17  6:43                             ` Jinjiang Tu

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