From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
tee@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE?
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:23:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8350.1175793784@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:37:29 PDT." <20070405053729.GQ2986@holomorphy.com>
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:37:29 PDT, William Lee Irwin III said:
> The actual phenomenon of concern here is dense matrix code with sparse
> matrix inputs. The matrices will typically not be vast but may span 1MB
> or so of RAM (1024x1024 is 1M*sizeof(double), and various dense matrix
> algorithms target ca. 300x300). Most of the time this will arise from
> the use of dense matrix code as black box solvers called as a library
> by programs not terribly concerned about efficiency until something
> gets explosively inefficient (and maybe not even then), or otherwise
> numerically naive programs. This, however, is arguably the majority of
> the usage cases by end-user invocations, so beware, though not too much.
Amen, brother! :)
At least in my environment, the vast majority of matrix code is actually run by
graduate students under the direction of whatever professor is the Principal
Investigator on the grant. As a rule, you can expect the grad student to know
about rounding errors and convergence issues and similar program *correctness*
factors. But it's the rare one that has much interest in program *efficiency*.
If it takes 2 days to run, that's 2 days they can go get another few pages of
thesis written while they wait. :)
The code that gets on our SystemX (a top-50 supercomputer still) is usually
well-tweaked for efficiency. However, that's just one system - there's on the
order of several hundred smaller compute clusters and boxen and SGI-en on
campus where "protect the system from cargo-cult programming by grad students"
is a valid kernel goal. ;)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-05 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-29 7:58 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Nick Piggin
2007-03-29 7:58 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] mips: reinstate move_pte Nick Piggin
2007-03-29 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 13:10 ` [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Hugh Dickins
2007-03-30 1:46 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30 2:59 ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30 3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30 9:23 ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30 2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 3:37 ` [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE? Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 9:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 10:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 12:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:55 ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 14:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 14:44 ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 15:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 15:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 16:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:15 ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 12:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:32 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:07 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 16:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 20:11 ` David Miller, Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05 2:03 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 5:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-05 1:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05 2:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 5:37 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-05 17:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2007-04-05 4:47 ` Nick Piggin
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