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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/uffd: Detect pgtable allocation failures
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 13:51:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <832F027A-3778-4670-BED6-1222FA905F13@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7cqMeTGSjsOPQ09@x1n>

Sorry for the late response.

>> Yes, I propose it as an optional flag for UFFD-WP.
>> Anyhow, I believe the UFFD-WP as implemented now is not efficient and
>> should’ve been vectored to allow one TLB shootdown for many
>> non-consecutive pages.
> 
> Agreed.  Would providing a vector of ranges help too for a few uffd ioctls?
> 
> I'm also curious whether you're still actively developing (or running) your
> iouring series.

So I finished building a prototype some time ago, and one of the benefits
was in reducing memory reclamation time. Unfortunately, MGLRU then came and
took away a lot of the benefit.

A colleague of mine had a slightly different use-case, so I gave him the
code and he showed interest in upstreaming it. After some probing, it turns
out he decided he is not into the effort of upstreaming it. I can upstream
the vectored WP once I write some tests.
>> 
>> I am not sure what the best way to detect that a page is write-pinned
>> reliably. My point was that if a change is already carried to
>> write-protect mechanisms, then this issue should be considered. Because
>> otherwise, many use-cases of uffd-wp would encounter implementation
>> issues.
>> 
>> I will not “kill” myself over it now, but I think it worth consideration.
> 
> The current interface change is small and limited only to the extra -ENOMEM
> retval with memory pressures (personally I don't really know how to trigger
> this, as I never succeeded myself even with memory pressure..).  What you
> said does sound like a new area to explore, and I think it's fine to change
> the interface again.

Understood.

Thanks and sorry again for the late response,
Nadav

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-18 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 22:52 [PATCH 0/3] mm/uffd: Fix missing markers on hugetlb Peter Xu
2023-01-04 22:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/hugetlb: Pre-allocate pgtable pages for uffd wr-protects Peter Xu
2023-01-05  1:50   ` James Houghton
2023-01-05  8:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 18:37   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-04 22:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/mprotect: Use long for page accountings and retval Peter Xu
2023-01-05  1:51   ` James Houghton
2023-01-05  8:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 19:22     ` Peter Xu
2023-01-09  8:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 18:48   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-04 22:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/uffd: Detect pgtable allocation failures Peter Xu
2023-01-05  1:52   ` James Houghton
2023-01-05  3:10   ` Nadav Amit
2023-01-05  8:59     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 18:01       ` Nadav Amit
2023-01-05 19:51         ` Peter Xu
2023-01-18 21:51           ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2023-01-09  8:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05  8:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05  8:16 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm/uffd: Fix missing markers on hugetlb David Hildenbrand

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