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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Luke Yang <luyang@redhat.com>
Cc: david@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, jhladky@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] mm/mprotect: 2x+ slowdown for >=400KiB regions since PTE batching (cac1db8c3aad)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2026 10:31:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8315cbde-389c-40c5-ac72-92074625489a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nfrvygkft42c35ymgupwggrc2hrbatxaa6cn3hjxffrvhaprqg@wjg4ye4uv5go>


On 17/02/26 11:38 pm, Pedro Falcato wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 12:43:38PM -0500, Luke Yang wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 03:42:08PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> On 13/02/26 10:56 pm, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>> On 2/13/26 18:16, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 4:24 PM Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 04:47:29PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Micro-benchmark results are nice. But what is the real word impact?
>>>>>>> IOW, why
>>>>>>> should we care?
>>>>>> Well, mprotect is widely used in thread spawning, code JITting,
>>>>>> and even process startup. And we don't want to pay for a feature we can't
>>>>>> even use (on x86).
>>>>> I agree. When I straced Android's zygote a while ago, mprotect() came
>>>>> up #30 in the list of most frequently used syscalls and one of the
>>>>> most used mm-related syscalls due to its use during process creation.
>>>>> However, I don't know how often it's used on VMAs of size >=400KiB.
>>>> See my point? :) If this is apparently so widespread then finding a real
>>>> reproducer is likely not a problem. Otherwise it's just speculation.
>>>>
>>>> It would also be interesting to know whether the reproducer ran with any
>>>> sort of mTHP enabled or not. 
>>> Yes. Luke, can you experiment with the following microbenchmark:
>>>
>>> https://pastebin.com/3hNtYirT
>>>
>>> and see if there is an optimization for pte-mapped 2M folios, before and
>>> after the commit?
>>>
>>> (set transparent_hugepages/enabled=always, hugepages-2048Kb/enabled=always)
> Since you're testing stuff, could you please test the changes in:
> https://github.com/heatd/linux/tree/mprotect-opt ?
>
> Not posting them yet since merge window, etc. Plus I think there's some
> further optimization work we can pull off.
>
> With the benchmark in https://gist.github.com/heatd/25eb2edb601719d22bfb514bcf06a132
> (compiled with g++ -O2 file.cpp -lbenchmark, needs google/benchmark) I've measured
> about an 18% speedup between original vs with patches.

Thanks for working on this. Some comments -

1. Rejecting batching with pte_batch_hint() means that we also don't batch 16K and 32K large
folios on arm64, since the cont bit is on starting only at 64K. Not sure how imp this is.

2. Did you measure if there is an optimization due to just the first commit ("prefetch the next pte")?
I actually had prefetch in mind - is it possible to do some kind of prefetch(pfn_to_page(pte_pfn(pte)))
to optimize the call to vm_normal_folio()?

>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-18  5:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-13 15:08 Luke Yang
2026-02-13 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-13 16:24   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-13 17:16     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-02-13 17:26       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-16 10:12         ` Dev Jain
2026-02-16 14:56           ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-17 17:43           ` Luke Yang
2026-02-17 18:08             ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18  5:01               ` Dev Jain [this message]
2026-02-18 10:06                 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18 10:38                   ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 10:46                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-18 11:58                       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18 12:24                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 12:15                           ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 13:02                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 15:00                               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:29                                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20  4:12                                 ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 11:52                     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18  4:50             ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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