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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools/mm: Add thpmaps script to dump THP usage info
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:53:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82dcfef7-7323-482e-8a27-98530570688e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f23e6f32-397e-4821-a0fe-f2a0bb6e2fe0@nvidia.com>

On 15/01/2024 21:30, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 1/15/24 07:56, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> ...
>>> But yes, let me work up some improved documentation and send it out for your
>>> review. The reason its a bit terse at the moment, is that I'm using Python's
>>> ArgumentParser for the documentation, and it removes all line breaks from the
>>> description which makes it hard to format longer form docs. Anyway, that's a bad
>>> excuse for bad docs so I'll figure out a solution.
>>
>> Here is my proposed documentation. If you could take a look and let me know if
>> it makes sense, then I'll modify the tool to conform:
>>
> 
> Looks great. One typo fix and a note, below.
> 
>> --8<--
>>
>> $ ./thpmaps --help
>>
>> usage: thpmaps [-h] [--pid pid | --cgroup path] [--rollup] [--cont size[KMG]]
>>                 [--inc-smaps] [--inc-empty] [--periodic sleep_ms]
>>
>> Prints information about how transparent huge pages are mapped, either system-
>> wide, or for a specified process or cgroup.
>>
>> A default set of statistics is always generated for THP mappings. However, it is
> 
> The way this is done is sufficiently interesting to the sysadmin to say a
> few words about it. Something along these lines, approximately:
> 
>  -----
>  When run without options, cgroups v1 or v2 (depending on what is active
>  on the system) is used in order to get a listing of all user space pids.
>  That pid list is passed into the core script, as if the user had provided
>  "--pids pid1 pid2 ...".
>  -----

Agree with the sentiment; I'll add something similar. Although, I'm no longer
using cgroups to get all the pids - I'm grabbing them from /proc.

--8<--
When run with --pid, the user explicitly specifies the set of pids to scan. e.g.
"--pid 10 [--pid 134 ...]". When run with --cgroup, the user passes either a v1
or v2 cgroup and all pids that belong to the cgroup subtree are scanned. When
run with neither --pid nor --cgroup, the full set of pids on the system is
gathered from /proc and scanned as if the user had provided "--pid 1 --pid 2 ...".
--8<--

> 
> This reminds me that maybe a --pids options is helpful, what do you think?

How about I allow --pid to be specified multiple times? That will make the
parsing easier (and be consistent with the way it works for --cont):

--pid 1 --pid 2 --pid 3 ...

> 
> 
>> also possible to generate additional statistics for "contiguous block mappings"
>> where the block size is user-defined.
>>
>> Statistics are maintained independently for anonymous and file-backed
>> (pagecache) memory and are shown both in kB and as a percentage of either total
>> anonymous or total file-backed memory as appropriate.
>>
>> THP Statistics
>> --------------
>>
>> Statistics are always generated for fully- and contiguously-mapped THPs whose
>> mapping address is aligned to their size, for each <size> supported by the
>> system. Separate counters describe THPs mapped by PTE vs those mapped by PMD.
>> (Although note a THP can only be mapped by PMD if it is PMD-sized):
>>
>> - anon-thp-pte-aligned-<size>kB
>> - file-thp-pte-aligned-<size>kB
>> - anon-thp-pmd-aligned-<size>kB
>> - file-thp-pmd-aligned-<size>kB
>>
>> Similarly, statistics are always generated for fully- and contiguously-mapped
>> THPs whose mapping address is *not* aligned to their size, for each <size>
>> supported by the system. Due to the unaligned mapping, it is impossible to map
>> by PMD, so there are only PTE counters for this case:
>>
>> - anon-thp-pte-unaligned-<size>kB
>> - file-thp-pte-unaligned-<size>kB
>>
>> Statistics are also always generated for mapped pages that belong to a THP but
>> where the is THP is *not* fully- and contiguously- mapped. These "partial"
>> mappings are all counted in the same counter regardless of the size of the THP
>> that is partially mapped:
>>
>> - anon-thp-pte-partial
>> - file-thp-pte-partial
>>
>> Contiguous Block Statistics
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> An optional, additional set of statistics is generated for every contiguous
>> block size specified with `--cont <size>`. These statistics show how much memory
>> is mapped in contiguous blocks of <size> and also aligned to <size>. A given
>> contiguous block must all belong to the same THP, but there is no requirement
>> for it to be the *whole* THP. Separate counters describe contiguous blocks
>> mapped by PTE vs those mapped by PMD:
>>
>> - anon-cont-pte-aligned-<size>kB
>> - file-cont-pte-aligned-<size>kB
>> - anon-cont-pmd-aligned-<size>kB
>> - file-cont-pmd-aligned-<size>kB
>>
>> As an example, if montiroing 64K contiguous blocks (--cont 64K), there are a
> 
> typo: "monitoring"
> 
>> number of sources that could provide such blocks: a fully- and contiguously-
>> mapped 64K THP that is aligned to a 64K boundary would provide 1 block. A fully-
>> and contiguously-mapped 128K THP that is aligned to at least a 64K boundary
>> would provide 2 blocks. Or a 128K THP that maps its first 100K, but contiguously
>> and starting at a 64K boundary would provide 1 block. A fully- and contiguously-
>> mapped 2M THP would provide 32 blocks. There are many other possible
>> permutations.
>>
>> optional arguments:
>>    -h, --help           show this help message and exit
>>    --pid pid            Process id of the target process. --pid and --cgroup are
>>                         mutually exclusive. If neither are provided, all
>>                         processes are scanned to provide system-wide information.
>>    --cgroup path        Path to the target cgroup in sysfs. Iterates over every
>>                         pid in the cgroup and its children. --pid and --cgroup
>>                         are mutually exclusive. If neither are provided, all
>>                         processes are scanned to provide system-wide information.
>>    --rollup             Sum the per-vma statistics to provide a summary over the
>>                         whole system, process or cgroup.
>>    --cont size[KMG]     Adds stats for memory that is mapped in contiguous blocks
>>                         of <size> and also aligned to <size>. May be issued
>>                         multiple times to track multiple sized blocks. Useful to
>>                         infer e.g. arm64 contpte and hpa mappings. Size must be a
>>                         power-of-2 number of pages.
>>    --inc-smaps          Include all numerical, additive /proc/<pid>/smaps stats
>>                         in the output.
>>    --inc-empty          Show all statistics including those whose value is 0.
>>    --periodic sleep_ms  Run in a loop, polling every sleep_ms milliseconds.
>>
>> Requires root privilege to access pagemap and kpageflags.
>>
>> --8<--
> 
> It's all looking much more understandable now, very nice.

Great - thanks for the review. I'll get this straightened out and post later today.

> 
> thanks,



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-16  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-10 17:32 Ryan Roberts
2024-01-10 23:21 ` John Hubbard
2024-01-11  0:11   ` John Hubbard
2024-01-11  3:32     ` John Hubbard
2024-01-11 11:54   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 17:32     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 18:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-11 18:04       ` John Hubbard
2024-01-12 10:01         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-11 18:17     ` John Hubbard
2024-01-12 10:00       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-12 19:14         ` John Hubbard
2024-01-15  9:48           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-15 15:56             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-15 21:30               ` John Hubbard
2024-01-16  8:53                 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-01-16 17:27                   ` John Hubbard

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