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From: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add new syscall pidfd_set_mempolicy().
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:39:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82c9c89c-aee2-08a3-e562-359631bb0137@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3KFFfMFE55lVdNZ@dhcp22.suse.cz>

>>> We shouldn't really rely on mmap_sem for this IMO.
>>
>>   Yes, We should rely on mmap_sem for vma->vm_policy,but not for
>>   process context policy(task->mempolicy).
> 
> But the caller has no way to know which kind of policy is returned so
> the locking cannot be conditional on the policy type.

Yes. vma->vm_policy is protected by mmap_sem, which is reliable if
we want to add a new apis(pidfd_mbind()) to change the vma->vm_policy
specified in pidfd. but not for pidfd_set_mempolicy(task->mempolicy is
protected by alloc_lock).

> 
> Yes this is all understood but the level of the overhead is not really
> clear. So the question is whether this will induce a visible overhead.
OK,i will try it.

> Because from the maintainability point of view it is much less costly to
> have a clear life time model. Right now we have a mix of reference
> counting and per-task requirements which is rather subtle and easy to
> get wrong. In an ideal world we would have get_vma_policy always
> returning a reference counted policy or NULL. If we really need to
> optimize for cache line bouncing we can go with per cpu reference
> counters (something that was not available at the time the mempolicy
> code has been introduced).
> 
> So I am not saying that the task_work based solution is not possible I
> just think that this looks like a good opportunity to get from the
> existing subtle model.

OK, i got it. Thanks for your reply and suggestions.


Zhongkun.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  8:40 Zhongkun He
2022-11-11 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-13 16:41   ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 11:44     ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 11:46       ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 17:52         ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 15:12       ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 18:12         ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-15  7:39           ` Zhongkun He [this message]
2022-11-16 11:28             ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-16 14:57               ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-17  7:19                 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-21 14:38                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-22  8:33                     ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-22  8:40                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14  9:24   ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-12  2:09 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16  7:04 ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-16  9:38   ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-16  9:44     ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-17  6:29       ` Huang, Ying

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