From: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
corbet@lwn.net, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add new syscall pidfd_set_mempolicy().
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:39:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <82c9c89c-aee2-08a3-e562-359631bb0137@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3KFFfMFE55lVdNZ@dhcp22.suse.cz>
>>> We shouldn't really rely on mmap_sem for this IMO.
>>
>> Yes, We should rely on mmap_sem for vma->vm_policy,but not for
>> process context policy(task->mempolicy).
>
> But the caller has no way to know which kind of policy is returned so
> the locking cannot be conditional on the policy type.
Yes. vma->vm_policy is protected by mmap_sem, which is reliable if
we want to add a new apis(pidfd_mbind()) to change the vma->vm_policy
specified in pidfd. but not for pidfd_set_mempolicy(task->mempolicy is
protected by alloc_lock).
>
> Yes this is all understood but the level of the overhead is not really
> clear. So the question is whether this will induce a visible overhead.
OK,i will try it.
> Because from the maintainability point of view it is much less costly to
> have a clear life time model. Right now we have a mix of reference
> counting and per-task requirements which is rather subtle and easy to
> get wrong. In an ideal world we would have get_vma_policy always
> returning a reference counted policy or NULL. If we really need to
> optimize for cache line bouncing we can go with per cpu reference
> counters (something that was not available at the time the mempolicy
> code has been introduced).
>
> So I am not saying that the task_work based solution is not possible I
> just think that this looks like a good opportunity to get from the
> existing subtle model.
OK, i got it. Thanks for your reply and suggestions.
Zhongkun.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-15 7:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-11 8:40 Zhongkun He
2022-11-11 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-13 16:41 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 11:44 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 11:46 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 17:52 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 15:12 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 18:12 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-15 7:39 ` Zhongkun He [this message]
2022-11-16 11:28 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-16 14:57 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-17 7:19 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-21 14:38 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-22 8:33 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-22 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 9:24 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-12 2:09 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16 7:04 ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-16 9:38 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-16 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-17 6:29 ` Huang, Ying
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