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From: KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/1] Drivers: base: memory: Export symbols for onlining memory blocks
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:49:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <828d748273884d6f9c24b658964f97c3@SN2PR03MB061.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F13E51.7040808@sr71.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Hansen [mailto:dave@sr71.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:04 AM
> To: KY Srinivasan
> Cc: Michal Hocko; gregkh@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> devel@linuxdriverproject.org; olaf@aepfle.de; apw@canonical.com;
> andi@firstfloor.org; akpm@linux-foundation.org; linux-mm@kvack.org;
> kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com; hannes@cmpxchg.org; yinghan@google.com;
> jasowang@redhat.com; kay@vrfy.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Drivers: base: memory: Export symbols for onlining
> memory blocks
> 
> On 07/25/2013 04:14 AM, KY Srinivasan wrote:
> > As promised, I have sent out the patches for (a) an implementation of an in-
> kernel API
> > for onlining  and a consumer for this API. While I don't know the exact reason
> why the
> > user mode code is delayed (under some low memory conditions), what is the
> harm in having
> > a mechanism to online memory that has been hot added without involving user
> space code.
> 
> KY, your potential problem, not being able to online more memory because
> of a shortage of memory, is a serious one.

All I can say is that the online is not happening within the allowed time (5 seconds in
the current code).
> 
> However, this potential issue exists in long-standing code, and
> potentially affects all users of memory hotplug.  The problem has not
> been described in sufficient detail for the rest of the developers to
> tell if you are facing a new problem, or whether *any* proposed solution
> will help the problem you face.
> 
> Your propsed solution changes the semantics of existing user/kernel
> interfaces, duplicates existing functionality, and adds code complexity
> to the kernel.

How so? All I am doing is to use the existing infrastructure to online
memory. The only change I have made is to export an API that allows
onlining without involving any user space code. I don't see how  this
adds complexity to the kernel. This would be an useful extension as can
be seen from its usage in the Hyper-V balloon driver.

In my particular use case, I need to wait for the memory to be onlined before
I can proceed to hot add the next chunk. This synchronization can be completely
avoided if we can avoid the involvement of user level code. I would submit to you that
this is a valid use case that we ought to be able to support.

Regards,

K. Y



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-25 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19 19:23 K. Y. Srinivasan
2013-07-22  3:16 ` Jason Wang
2013-07-22 12:37 ` Michal Hocko
2013-07-23 14:52   ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-23 15:09     ` Michal Hocko
2013-07-23 15:50       ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-23 15:28     ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-23 15:54       ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-23 16:00         ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-23 17:21           ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-24 16:43             ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-24 19:45               ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-24 21:02                 ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-25  7:57                   ` Michal Hocko
2013-07-25 11:14                     ` KY Srinivasan
2013-07-25 15:03                       ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-25 15:15                         ` Kay Sievers
2013-07-25 16:35                           ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-25 15:49                         ` KY Srinivasan [this message]
2013-07-23 16:01 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:54   ` KY Srinivasan

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