Re: [PATCH] mm/damon: introduce DAMON-based NUMA memory tiering module

[Josh Law <objecting@objecting.org>]

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>Josh,
>
>in general we try to be a welcoming upstream community. Finding people
>that are willing to work on the low-level bits and stick around is rare.
>
>At the same time, we need people that are willing to get familiar with
>the code base and technology, so they can help out with review and
>provide long-term value to the project. AI use is only partially useful
>in that context. Certainly not for writing patches as a newbie. At best,
>to double-check your understanding (e.g., AI review), help you learn
>(e.g., explore the code base), or improve your writing if your English
>is really, really bad.
>
>I prefer someone trying to use their own words to compose a change log
>and actually learn something on the way over some AI slop that reads
>nicer any day. Often, when you write a changelog you actually realize
>which corner cases you might be missing, that the design might be overly
>complicated, that, maybe, the reasoning or motivation is bad etc. It
>takes time but you actually learn something and are forced to think
>(crazy, right?).
>
>The same is particularly true when it comes to writing documentation, as
>people raised earlier in other context.
>
>Having that said, your actions made a lot of people's alarms go off and
>there is pretty much 0 trust now. As Lorenzo says, even now we are not
>really sure if you are saying the truth right now, which is a big problem.
>
>If you are, in fact, a real person, and are passionate to work on the
>kernel, it would be best if you would start things very slowly and don't
>use any AI for crafting your patches (including patch descriptions).
>Stick to one subsystem and ask people what good starting tasks/projects
>could be.
>
>Ideally, you'd find someone people trust around here, that can verify
>your identity (i.e., have a video chat etc) and start mentoring you on
>how to start working in the kernel community and gain trust.
>
>Now, I am still not sure whether I am talking to a bot here (there are
>too many things Lorenzo points out above that are very suspicious), but
>I just wanted to say that there are ways to become a trusted
>contributor, and that information might be useful for other people that
>might be interested in working on the kernel.
>
>It's certainly not by flooding the list with AI slop.
>


Hello david, thanks for being polite about this whole thing!


so, you are talking to a real human, i promise you that now


I am looking for people to personally mentor me, so i succseed in the kernel

And, I know this is unprofessinal (and im sorry!), but my github is my best friend, i have a year worth of commits for you to see publicly, also i work with android custom roms. (Any questions, feel free to ask!)



So yes, this is my oppotunity to be honest,


(Yes. I do use AI!)


The reason why, is im a "perfectionist", i want to start human patches, but im scared i will get ripped apart, (or i wont get like reviewership!! Because im too slow) so i use claude (smartest ai in the market), and i regret it. Like seriously!

Additionally, i hate being slow, im scared that the community will ditch me if i do 1 human patch every 2-4 weeks, which is my expected time (because i need to understand the code!!!!!)


I would love to have a mentor to help me around, and when (if) somebody wants to, i promise you now, i will start making human patches, and i will benefit the community positively,



Thanks a lot david for not just ripping me apart, and thanks for actually taking the time to politely talk to me, hugely appriciated

Any concerns, or questions, feel free to ask

V/R


Josh Law