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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] mm: Add personality flag to limit address to 47 bits
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 07:25:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8130e50c-01e2-45c3-a516-45f5499311f2@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuDoExckq21fePoe@ghost>

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024, at 00:45, Charlie Jenkins wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 03:08:14PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
>
> I responded to Arnd in the other thread, but I am still not convinced
> that the solution that x86 and arm64 have selected is the best solution.
> The solution of defaulting to 47 bits does allow applications the
> ability to get addresses that are below 47 bits. However, due to
> differences across architectures it doesn't seem possible to have all
> architectures default to the same value. Additionally, this flag will be
> able to help users avoid potential bugs where a hint address is passed
> that causes upper bits of a VA to be used.
>
> The other issue I have with this is that if there is not a hint address
> specified to be greater than 47 bits on x86, then mmap() may return an
> address that is greater than 47-bits. The documentation in
> Documentation/arch/x86/x86_64/5level-paging.rst says:
>
> "If hint address set above 47-bit, but MAP_FIXED is not specified, we try
> to look for unmapped area by specified address. If it's already
> occupied, we look for unmapped area in *full* address space, rather than
> from 47-bit window."

This is also in the commit message of b569bab78d8d ("x86/mm: Prepare
to expose larger address space to userspace"), which introduced it.
However, I don't actually see the fallback to the full address space,
instead the actual behavior seems to be the same as arm64.

Am I missing something in the x86 implementation, or do we just
need to update the documentation?

      Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-11  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 21:15 [PATCH RFC v3 0/2] mm: Introduce ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT personality flag Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-05 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] mm: Add personality flag to limit address to 47 bits Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-06  6:59   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-09 19:07     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-10  9:20       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-10 12:43         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-11 13:38           ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-12  6:20             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-20  5:10               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-11 13:37       ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-06  7:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06  8:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-06  8:14     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-06  9:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06  9:52         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-09 23:22           ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-10  9:13             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-10 23:29               ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11 13:50               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-06  9:14     ` Guo Ren
2024-09-06  9:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06 11:43         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-10 19:08           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-11  0:45             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11  7:25               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2024-09-12  6:06                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11 18:21               ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-12  6:18                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-12 10:53                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-12 21:15                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-13 10:08                       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-13 10:21                         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-13 20:15                         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-13  7:41                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-13 21:04                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-10-02 14:26                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-09-05 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/2] selftests/mm: Create ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT test Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-06  6:08 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/2] mm: Introduce ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT personality flag Guo Ren
2024-09-06  6:19 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-09-08 11:26 ` Jiaxun Yang

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