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* [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
@ 2025-11-12  2:00 Wei Yang
  2025-11-12  2:37 ` Lance Yang
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Yang @ 2025-11-12  2:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett,
	npache, ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang
  Cc: linux-mm, Wei Yang

SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
collapse next pmd range.

Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
---
 mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
--- a/mm/khugepaged.c
+++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
@@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
 			goto handle_result;
 		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
 		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
+		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
 		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
 		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
 		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:
-- 
2.34.1



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  2:00 [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE Wei Yang
@ 2025-11-12  2:37 ` Lance Yang
  2025-11-12  3:40   ` Wei Yang
  2025-11-12  3:33 ` Dev Jain
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lance Yang @ 2025-11-12  2:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang
  Cc: linux-mm, baolin.wang, dev.jain, Liam.Howlett, ryan.roberts,
	npache, baohua, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy



On 2025/11/12 10:00, Wei Yang wrote:
> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
> collapse next pmd range.

Right, bailing out of the whole MADV_COLLAPSE request just because
we encounter one empty PMD is too strict ...

It makes sense to treat SCAN_PMD_NONE like the other whitelisted cases
(e.g., SCAN_PMD_NULL).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
> ---

LGTM.

Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>

>   mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>   			goto handle_result;
>   		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>   		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
> +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>   		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  2:00 [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE Wei Yang
  2025-11-12  2:37 ` Lance Yang
@ 2025-11-12  3:33 ` Dev Jain
  2025-11-12  9:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  2025-11-13  2:44 ` Baolin Wang
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Dev Jain @ 2025-11-12  3:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang,
	Liam.Howlett, npache, ryan.roberts, baohua, lance.yang
  Cc: linux-mm


On 12/11/25 7:30 am, Wei Yang wrote:
> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
> collapse next pmd range.
>
> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
> ---
>   

LGTM

Reviewed-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  2:37 ` Lance Yang
@ 2025-11-12  3:40   ` Wei Yang
  2025-11-12  3:58     ` Dev Jain
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Yang @ 2025-11-12  3:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lance Yang
  Cc: Wei Yang, linux-mm, baolin.wang, dev.jain, Liam.Howlett,
	ryan.roberts, npache, baohua, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:37:06AM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>
>
>On 2025/11/12 10:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>> collapse next pmd range.
>
>Right, bailing out of the whole MADV_COLLAPSE request just because
>we encounter one empty PMD is too strict ...
>
>It makes sense to treat SCAN_PMD_NONE like the other whitelisted cases
>(e.g., SCAN_PMD_NULL).
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>> ---
>
>LGTM.
>
>Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>

Thanks for the review.

I'm currently evaluating the use of SCAN_NULL versus SCAN_NONE. It seems their
usage in the current code is intermixed, and I'm questioning if there's a
strong, practical reason to maintain a distinction between these two states.
Should they be unified?


-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  3:40   ` Wei Yang
@ 2025-11-12  3:58     ` Dev Jain
  2025-11-12  9:10       ` Wei Yang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Dev Jain @ 2025-11-12  3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang, Lance Yang
  Cc: linux-mm, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett, ryan.roberts, npache,
	baohua, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy


On 12/11/25 9:10 am, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:37:06AM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>> On 2025/11/12 10:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>>> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>>> collapse next pmd range.
>> Right, bailing out of the whole MADV_COLLAPSE request just because
>> we encounter one empty PMD is too strict ...
>>
>> It makes sense to treat SCAN_PMD_NONE like the other whitelisted cases
>> (e.g., SCAN_PMD_NULL).
>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>>> ---
>> LGTM.
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>>
> Thanks for the review.
>
> I'm currently evaluating the use of SCAN_NULL versus SCAN_NONE. It seems their
> usage in the current code is intermixed, and I'm questioning if there's a
> strong, practical reason to maintain a distinction between these two states.
> Should they be unified?

There was some discussion about that in this thread:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/v5ivpub6z2n2uyemlnxgbilzs52ep4lrary7lm7o6axxoneb75@yfacfl5rkzeh/

There are some cleanups mentioned in the thread which you can try if you want :)





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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  3:58     ` Dev Jain
@ 2025-11-12  9:10       ` Wei Yang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Yang @ 2025-11-12  9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dev Jain
  Cc: Wei Yang, Lance Yang, linux-mm, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett,
	ryan.roberts, npache, baohua, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 09:28:34AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>
>On 12/11/25 9:10 am, Wei Yang wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:37:06AM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>> > 
>> > On 2025/11/12 10:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>> > > SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>> > > collapse next pmd range.
>> > Right, bailing out of the whole MADV_COLLAPSE request just because
>> > we encounter one empty PMD is too strict ...
>> > 
>> > It makes sense to treat SCAN_PMD_NONE like the other whitelisted cases
>> > (e.g., SCAN_PMD_NULL).
>> > > Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>> > > ---
>> > LGTM.
>> > 
>> > Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>> > 
>> Thanks for the review.
>> 
>> I'm currently evaluating the use of SCAN_NULL versus SCAN_NONE. It seems their
>> usage in the current code is intermixed, and I'm questioning if there's a
>> strong, practical reason to maintain a distinction between these two states.
>> Should they be unified?
>
>There was some discussion about that in this thread:
>
>https://lore.kernel.org/all/v5ivpub6z2n2uyemlnxgbilzs52ep4lrary7lm7o6axxoneb75@yfacfl5rkzeh/
>
>There are some cleanups mentioned in the thread which you can try if you want :)
>

Thanks, will take a look.

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  2:00 [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE Wei Yang
  2025-11-12  2:37 ` Lance Yang
  2025-11-12  3:33 ` Dev Jain
@ 2025-11-12  9:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  2025-11-12  9:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  2025-11-13  2:44 ` Baolin Wang
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) @ 2025-11-12  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang, akpm, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett,
	npache, ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang
  Cc: linux-mm

On 12.11.25 03:00, Wei Yang wrote:
> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
> collapse next pmd range.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
> ---
>   mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>   			goto handle_result;
>   		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>   		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
> +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>   		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:

Looks ok to me.

I am really confused about PMD_NONE vs. PMD_NULL.

Is my understanding correct, hat with your patch we can just merge both 
into a single NO_PMD_TABLE or sth. like that?

-- 
Cheers

David


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  9:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
@ 2025-11-12  9:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  2025-11-12 11:27     ` Wei Yang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) @ 2025-11-12  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang, akpm, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett,
	npache, ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang
  Cc: linux-mm

On 12.11.25 10:51, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12.11.25 03:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>> collapse next pmd range.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>> ---
>>    mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>>    			goto handle_result;
>>    		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>>    		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
>> +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>>    		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>>    		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>>    		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:
> 
> Looks ok to me.
> 
> I am really confused about PMD_NONE vs. PMD_NULL.
> 
> Is my understanding correct, hat with your patch we can just merge both
> into a single NO_PMD_TABLE or sth. like that?

NO_PTE_TABLE, actually

-- 
Cheers

David


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  9:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
@ 2025-11-12 11:27     ` Wei Yang
  2025-11-12 11:41       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Yang @ 2025-11-12 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  Cc: Wei Yang, akpm, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett,
	npache, ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang, linux-mm

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:51:43AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>On 12.11.25 10:51, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>> On 12.11.25 03:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>> > SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>> > collapse next pmd range.
>> > 
>> > Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>> > ---
>> >    mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>> >    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> > 
>> > diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> > index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
>> > --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> > +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> > @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>> >    			goto handle_result;
>> >    		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>> >    		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
>> > +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>> >    		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>> >    		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>> >    		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:
>> 
>> Looks ok to me.
>> 
>> I am really confused about PMD_NONE vs. PMD_NULL.
>> 
>> Is my understanding correct, hat with your patch we can just merge both
>> into a single NO_PMD_TABLE or sth. like that?
>
>NO_PTE_TABLE, actually
>

I am thinking about this too.

If no other objections, I will prepare a v2 with this.

BTW, you prefer merge them directly, or merge on top of this change?

>-- 
>Cheers
>
>David

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12 11:27     ` Wei Yang
@ 2025-11-12 11:41       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) @ 2025-11-12 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang
  Cc: akpm, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, baolin.wang, Liam.Howlett, npache,
	ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang, linux-mm

On 12.11.25 12:27, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:51:43AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>> On 12.11.25 10:51, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>> On 12.11.25 03:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
>>>> collapse next pmd range.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>     mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>>>>     1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>> index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>> @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>>>>     			goto handle_result;
>>>>     		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>>>>     		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
>>>> +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>>>>     		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>>>>     		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>>>>     		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:
>>>
>>> Looks ok to me.
>>>
>>> I am really confused about PMD_NONE vs. PMD_NULL.
>>>
>>> Is my understanding correct, hat with your patch we can just merge both
>>> into a single NO_PMD_TABLE or sth. like that?
>>
>> NO_PTE_TABLE, actually
>>
> 
> I am thinking about this too.
> 
> If no other objections, I will prepare a v2 with this.
> 
> BTW, you prefer merge them directly, or merge on top of this change?

I'd probably do it in a single commit, stating that both scenarios 
should be handled completely the same.

But no strong opinion against doing it in two commits from my side.

-- 
Cheers

David


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* Re: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE
  2025-11-12  2:00 [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: continue to collapse on SCAN_PMD_NONE Wei Yang
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2025-11-12  9:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
@ 2025-11-13  2:44 ` Baolin Wang
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Baolin Wang @ 2025-11-13  2:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Yang, akpm, david, lorenzo.stoakes, ziy, Liam.Howlett,
	npache, ryan.roberts, dev.jain, baohua, lance.yang
  Cc: linux-mm



On 2025/11/12 10:00, Wei Yang wrote:
> SCAN_PMD_NONE means current pmd is empty, but we can still continue
> collapse next pmd range.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
> ---

Make sense to me. And I agree with others' opinions to unify 
SCAN_PMD_NULL and SCAN_PMD_NONE.

Reviewed-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>

>   mm/khugepaged.c | 1 +
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 7e8cb181d5bd..4c2217076ad3 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -2835,6 +2835,7 @@ int madvise_collapse(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start,
>   			goto handle_result;
>   		/* Whitelisted set of results where continuing OK */
>   		case SCAN_PMD_NULL:
> +		case SCAN_PMD_NONE:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT:
>   		case SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP:
>   		case SCAN_LACK_REFERENCED_PAGE:



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