From: Georgi Nikolov <gnikolov@icdsoft.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, fw@strlen.de
Subject: Re: [Bug 200651] New: cgroups iptables-restor: vmalloc: allocation failure
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:55:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8105b7b3-20d3-5931-9f3c-2858021a4e12@icdsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6838c342-2d07-3047-e723-2b641bc6bf79@suse.cz>
On 07/31/2018 09:38 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 07/30/2018 08:51 PM, Georgi Nikolov wrote:
>> On 07/30/2018 09:38 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Mon 30-07-18 18:54:24, Georgi Nikolov wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> No i was wrong. The regression starts actually with 0537250fdc6c8.
>>>> - old code, which opencodes kvmalloc, is masking error but error is there
>>>> - kvmalloc without GFP_NORETRY works fine, but probably can consume a
>>>> lot of memory - commit: eacd86ca3b036
>>>> - kvmalloc with GFP_NORETRY shows error - commit: 0537250fdc6c8
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>>>> What is correct way to fix it.
>>>>>> - inside xt_alloc_table_info remove GFP_NORETRY from kvmalloc or add
>>>>>> this flag only for sizes bigger than some threshold
>>>>> This would reintroduce issue fixed by 0537250fdc6c8. Note that
>>>>> kvmalloc(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NORETRY) is more or less equivalent to the
>>>>> original code (well, except for __GFP_NOWARN).
>>>> So probably we should pass GFP_NORETRY only for large requests (above
>>>> some threshold).
>>> What would be the treshold? This is not really my area so I just wanted
>>> to keep the original code semantic.
>>>
>>>>>> - inside kvmalloc_node remove GFP_NORETRY from
>>>>>> __vmalloc_node_flags_caller (i don't know if it honors this flag, or
>>>>>> the problem is elsewhere)
>>>>> No, not really. This is basically equivalent to kvmalloc(GFP_KERNEL).
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly suspect that this is not a regression in this code but rather
>>>>> a side effect of larger memory fragmentation caused by something else.
>>>>> In any case do you see this failure also without artificial test case
>>>>> with a standard workload?
>>>> Yes i can see failures with standard workload, in fact it was hard to
>>>> reproduce it.
>>>> Here is the error from production servers where allocation is smaller:
>>>> iptables: vmalloc: allocation failure, allocated 131072 of 225280 bytes,
>>>> mode:0x14010c0(GFP_KERNEL|__GFP_NORETRY), nodemask=(null)
>>>>
>>>> I didn't understand if vmalloc honors GFP_NORETRY.
>>> 0537250fdc6c8 changelog tries to explain. kvmalloc doesn't really
>>> support the GFP_NORETRY remantic because that would imply the request
>>> wouldn't trigger the oom killer but in rare cases this might happen
>>> (e.g. when page tables are allocated because those are hardcoded GFP_KERNEL).
>>>
>>> That being said, I have no objection to use GFP_KERNEL if it helps real
>>> workloads but we probably need some cap...
>> Probably Vlastimil Babka can propose some limit:
> No, I think that's rather for the netfilter folks to decide. However, it
> seems there has been the debate already [1] and it was not found. The
> conclusion was that __GFP_NORETRY worked fine before, so it should work
> again after it's added back. But now we know that it doesn't...
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180130140104.GE21609@dhcp22.suse.cz/T/#u
Yes i see. I will add Florian Westphal to CC list. netfilter-devel is
already in this list so probably have to wait for their opinion.
>> On Thu 26-07-18 09:18:57, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> This is likely the kvmalloc() in xt_alloc_table_info(). Between 4.13 and
>> 4.17 it shouldn't use __GFP_NORETRY, but looks like commit 0537250fdc6c
>> ("netfilter: x_tables: make allocation less aggressive") was backported
>> to 4.14. Removing __GFP_NORETRY might help here, but bring back other
>> issues. Less than 4MB is not that much though, maybe find some "sane"
>> limit and use __GFP_NORETRY only above that?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Georgi Nikolov
>>
>>
Regards,
--
Georgi Nikolov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-31 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <bug-200651-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2018-07-25 19:52 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-26 7:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26 7:26 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26 7:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26 7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26 7:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26 8:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26 8:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26 8:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26 9:02 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 13:37 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 13:57 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 15:54 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 18:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 18:51 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-31 6:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-31 13:55 ` Georgi Nikolov [this message]
2018-07-31 14:05 ` Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 14:25 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-01 7:17 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-01 7:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-01 8:33 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-01 16:03 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-02 8:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-02 9:25 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-08-02 10:44 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-06 8:42 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-07 11:02 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-07 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:19 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 11:26 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:30 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 11:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-07 13:35 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-08-07 11:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-07 11:37 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 18:23 ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 19:30 ` Michal Hocko
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