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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: lock_compound_mapcounts() on THP mapcounts
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 19:31:37 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <806c097-4613-de13-a5c-5bd5ab318cc9@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221105200646.wmfilka6prusrb56@box.shutemov.name>

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 06:53:45PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > Fix the races in maintaining compound_mapcount, subpages_mapcount and
> > subpage _mapcount by using PG_locked in the first tail of any compound
> > page for a bit_spin_lock() on such modifications; skipping the usual
> > atomic operations on those fields in this case.
> > 
> > Bring page_remove_file_rmap() and page_remove_anon_compound_rmap()
> > back into page_remove_rmap() itself.  Rearrange page_add_anon_rmap()
> > and page_add_file_rmap() and page_remove_rmap() to follow the same
> > "if (compound) {lock} else if (PageCompound) {lock} else {atomic}"
> > pattern (with a PageTransHuge in the compound test, like before, to
> > avoid BUG_ONs and optimize away that block when THP is not configured).
> > Move all the stats updates outside, after the bit_spin_locked section,
> > so that it is sure to be a leaf lock.
> > 
> > Add page_dup_compound_rmap() to manage compound locking versus atomics
> > in sync with the rest.  In particular, hugetlb pages are still using
> > the atomics: to avoid unnecessary interference there, and because they
> > never have subpage mappings; but this exception can easily be changed.
> > Conveniently, page_dup_compound_rmap() turns out to suit an anon THP's
> > __split_huge_pmd_locked() too.
> > 
> > bit_spin_lock() is not popular with PREEMPT_RT folks: but PREEMPT_RT
> > sensibly excludes TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE already, so its only exposure
> > is to the non-hugetlb non-THP pte-mapped compound pages (with large
> > folios being currently dependent on TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE).  There is
> > never any scan of subpages in this case; but we have chosen to use
> > PageCompound tests rather than PageTransCompound tests to gate the
> > use of lock_compound_mapcounts(), so that page_mapped() is correct on
> > all compound pages, whether or not TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE is enabled:
> > could that be a problem for PREEMPT_RT, when there is contention on
> > the lock - under heavy concurrent forking for example?  If so, then it
> > can be turned into a sleeping lock (like folio_lock()) when PREEMPT_RT.
> > 
> > A simple 100 X munmap(mmap(2GB, MAP_SHARED|MAP_POPULATE, tmpfs), 2GB)
> > took 18 seconds on small pages, and used to take 1 second on huge pages,
> > but now takes 115 milliseconds on huge pages.  Mapping by pmds a second
> > time used to take 860ms and now takes 86ms; mapping by pmds after mapping
> > by ptes (when the scan is needed) used to take 870ms and now takes 495ms.
> > Mapping huge pages by ptes is largely unaffected but variable: between 5%
> > faster and 5% slower in what I've recorded.  Contention on the lock is
> > likely to behave worse than contention on the atomics behaved.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> 
> Acked-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>

Thanks, Kirill; and there's a 4/3 posted to change around that
"if (compound) {lock} else if (PageCompound) {lock} else {atomic}"
ordering, which Linus hated.

But this might be a good place to mention, that Linus (I'd sent private
mail to sort out mm-unstable instabilities in a hurry, and discussion
ensued from there) does not like this patch very much, and has a good
idea for improving it, but has let us move forward with this for now.

His idea is for subpages_mapcount not to count all the ptes of subpages,
but to count all the subpages which have ptes (or I think that's one way
of saying it, but not how he said it): count what the stats need counted.

I was sceptical at first, because that was indeed something I had tried
at one point, but decided against.  I am hoping that it will turn out
just to be my prejudice: that I embarked on this job, in large part,
to get rid of the scan lurking inside total_mapcount().  And Linus's
idea would appear to bring back the unlocked scan in total_mapcount():
but remove all the locked scans in page_add/remove_rmap() - which,
setting aside my prejudice, sounds like a big improvement (in the
double-mapped case; common cases unchanged).

I was not enthusiastic, in that discussion several days ago, but got
quite excited once I had a moment to consider (but I've not told him so
until now).  I'll try to pursue it this weekend: maybe I'll rediscover
a good reason why it had to be abandoned, but let's hope it works out.

Anyway, what's in mm-unstable is good, and an improvement over the old
scans; but I appreciate Linus's frustration that it could be much better.

Hugh


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-10  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-03  1:44 [PATCH 0/3] mm,huge,rmap: unify and speed up compound mapcounts Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03 21:18   ` Sidhartha Kumar
2022-11-04  4:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  0:11       ` Sidhartha Kumar
2022-11-10  2:10         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  2:13           ` [PATCH 1/3 fix] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page: fix Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 19:13   ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  1:58     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: simplify compound page mapcount handling Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 19:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  2:49     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: lock_compound_mapcounts() on THP mapcounts Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 20:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  3:31     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2022-11-10  2:18 ` [PATCH 4/3] mm,thp,rmap: handle the normal !PageCompound case first Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  3:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-10  4:21     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10 16:31     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-10 16:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18  9:08 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,thp,rmap: rework the use of subpages_mapcount Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:12   ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Hugh Dickins
2022-11-19  0:12     ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-19  0:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-19  1:35         ` [PATCH 1/3 fix] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages: fix Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 12:38           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:13             ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 12:36     ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:03       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:14   ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount COMPOUND_MAPPED if PMD-mapped Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 13:09     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:33       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:16   ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: clean up the end of __split_huge_pmd_locked() Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 13:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-18 20:18   ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,thp,rmap: rework the use of subpages_mapcount Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18 20:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-18 20:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18 22:03       ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-18 22:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18 22:10         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18 22:23           ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-21 16:59   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-21 17:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-22 16:27       ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-21 18:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22  1:32       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  5:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-22  6:55         ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22 16:30           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-22  9:38   ` [PATCH v2 " Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:42     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:49     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount COMPOUND_MAPPED if PMD-mapped Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:51     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: clean up the end of __split_huge_pmd_locked() Hugh Dickins
2022-12-05  1:38       ` Hugh Dickins

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