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From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, rppt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/9] fs/procfs: use per-VMA RCU-protected locking in PROCMAP_QUERY API
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 14:32:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7rm3izyq2vjp5evdjc7c6z4crdd3oerpiknumdnmmemwyiwx7t@hleldw7iozi3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4Bzaac0Di+mCfrxRVsZT0sfWWoOJi6ByW0XA5YEh1h7dwuw@mail.gmail.com>

* Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> [240606 14:09]:

...

> > > Liam, any objections to this? The whole point of this patch set is to
> > > add a new API, not all the CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK gotchas. My
> > > implementation is structured in a way that should be easily amenable
> > > to CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK changes, but if there are a few more subtle
> > > things that need to be figured for existing text-based
> > > /proc/<pid>/maps anyways, I think it would be best to use mmap_lock
> > > for now for this new API, and then adopt the same final
> > > CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK-aware solution.
> >
> > The reason I was hoping to have the new interface use the per-vma
> > locking from the start is to ensure the guarantees that we provide to
> > the users would not change.  We'd also avoid shifting to yet another
> > mmap_lock users.
> >
> 
> Yep, it's completely understandable. And you see that I changed the
> structure quite a lot to abstract away mmap_lock vs vm_lock details.
> I'm afraid anon_vma_name() is quite an obstacle, unfortunately, and
> seems like it should be addressed first, but I'm just not qualified
> enough to do this.
> 
> > I also didn't think it would complicate your series too much, so I
> > understand why you want to revert to the old locking semantics.  I'm
> > fine with you continuing with the series on the old lock.  Thanks for
> > trying to make this work.
> >
> 
> I'm happy to keep the existing structure of the code, and
> (intentionally) all the CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK logic is in separate
> patches, so it's easy to do. I'd love to help adopt a per-VMA lock
> once all the pieces are figured out. Hopefully anon_vma_name() is the
> last one remaining :) So please keep me cc'ed on relevant patches.
> 
> As I mentioned, I just don't feel like I would be able to solve the
> anon_vma_name() problem, but of course I wouldn't want to be
> completely blocked by it as well.
> 

Absolutely.  Thanks for trying.  To be clear, I'm fine with you dropping
the per-vma locking from this interface as well.

Thanks,
Liam


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-06 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-05  0:24 [PATCH v3 0/9] ioctl()-based API to query VMAs from /proc/<pid>/maps Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: add find_vma()-like API but RCU protected and taking VMA lock Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-05 13:33     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-05 16:13       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05 16:24         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05 16:27           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05 17:03             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-05 23:22               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-06-06 16:51                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-06 17:13                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] fs/procfs: extract logic for getting VMA name constituents Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] fs/procfs: implement efficient VMA querying API for /proc/<pid>/maps Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-07 22:31   ` Andrei Vagin
2024-06-10  8:17     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-12 17:48       ` Andrei Vagin
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] fs/procfs: use per-VMA RCU-protected locking in PROCMAP_QUERY API Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05 23:15   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-06-06 16:51     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-06 17:12       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-06-06 18:03         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-06 17:15       ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-06 17:33         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-06-06 18:07           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-06 18:09         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-06 18:32           ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] fs/procfs: add build ID fetching to " Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] docs/procfs: call out ioctl()-based PROCMAP_QUERY command existence Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] tools: sync uapi/linux/fs.h header into tools subdir Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] selftests/bpf: make use of PROCMAP_QUERY ioctl if available Andrii Nakryiko
2024-06-05  0:24 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] selftests/bpf: add simple benchmark tool for /proc/<pid>/maps APIs Andrii Nakryiko

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