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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Add kvfree_sensitive() for freeing sensitive data objects
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:20:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7eb36a794df38c885689085618a8a4ff9df3dd2c.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgyt8j5rEnyKE8YdrRjQof1kvyom1CensTE0-Bp-meGnA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 10:11 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > Dubious assertion.  Both end up with zeroed memory.
> 
> You don't understand the function.

Another dubious assertion.

> You ignored the part where the zeroed memory isn't even the _point_.
> 
> Yes, for kzalloc() it is.  There the zero is inherent and important.
> People very much depend on it, and it's the whole point of that
> function. The 'z' is not silent.
> 
> But for kzfree() it really really isn't.  There the zeroing is never
> going to be seen by anybody wjho does the right thing, and is not
> important at all - it's purely a "let's make sure old contents don't
> leak".
> 
> The "zero" part is completely immaterial, it could just as well have
> been a "memset(0xaa)" instead.

or memfill(0xdeadbeef).
 
> And you didn't seem to understand that kzfree() shouldn't use memset()
> in the first place, so it's not even using the same operation.
> 
> You really don't seem to get the whole "kzfree() has absolutely
> _nothing_ to do with kzalloc() apart from a dubious implementation
> details".

API function naming symmetry is good.
You ignore or don't quote the kzfree/kfree_sensitive too.

Yet I don't say _you_ don't understand something.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-06 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-06  2:37 Waiman Long
2020-04-06  4:20 ` David Rientjes
2020-04-06 14:36   ` Waiman Long
2020-04-06 14:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-06  7:44 ` David Howells
2020-04-06 23:20   ` David Rientjes
2020-04-06 14:32 ` David Howells
2020-04-06 14:40   ` Waiman Long
2020-04-06 15:45 ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 16:00 ` David Howells
2020-04-06 16:10   ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 16:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 16:42       ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 17:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 17:20           ` Joe Perches [this message]
2020-04-06 17:26             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-06 17:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 17:46               ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 17:58     ` Waiman Long
2020-04-06 18:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 18:46         ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 16:26   ` David Howells
2020-04-06 16:38     ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 17:10     ` Joe Perches
2020-04-06 17:24       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-06 17:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 17:51       ` David Howells
2020-04-06 17:58         ` Linus Torvalds

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