From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/12] khugepaged: Introduce vma_collapse_anon_folio()
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 13:47:15 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e89702d-c52c-4716-9cd6-33aebade1c71@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4e02b6b-2bc4-449e-87f9-43f4be269626@redhat.com>
On 02/01/25 5:03 pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When having to back-off (restore original PTEs), or for copying,
>>>> you'll likely need access to the original PTEs, which were already
>>>> cleared. So likely you need a temporary copy of the original PTEs
>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>> That's why temporarily clearing the PMD und mmap write lock is easier
>>>> to implement, at the cost of requiring the mmap lock in write mode
>>>> like PMD collapse.
>>
>> Why do I need to clear the PMD if I am taking the mmap_write_lock() and
>> operating only on the PTE?
>
> One approach I proposed to Nico (and I think he has a prototype) is:
>
> a) Take all locks like we do today (mmap in write, vma in write, rmap
> in write)
>
> After this step, no "ordinary" page table walkers can run anymore
>
> b) Clear the PMD entry and flush the TLB like we do today
>
> After this step, neither the CPU can read/write folios nor GUP-fast
> can run. The PTE table is completely isolated.
>
> c) Now we can work on the (temporarily cleared) PTE table as we
> please: isolate folios, lock them, ... without clearing the PTE
> entries, just like we do today.
>
> d) Allocate the new folios (we don't have to hold any spinlocks), copy
> + replace the affected PTE entries in the isolated PTE table. Similar
> to what we do today, except that we don't clear PTEs but instead
> clear+reset.
>
> e) Unlock+un-isolate + unref the collapsed folios like we do today.
>
> f) Re-map the PTE-table, like we do today when collapse would have
> failed.
>
>
> Of course, after taking all locks we have to re-verify that there is
> something to collapse (e.g., in d) we also have to check for
> unexpected folio references). The backup path is easy: remap the PTE
> table as no PTE entries were touched just yet.
>
> Observe that many things are "like we do today".
>
>
> As soon as we go to read locks + PTE locks, it all gets more
> complicated to get it right. Not that it cannot be done, but the above
> is IMHO a lot simpler to get right.
Thanks for the reply. I'll go ahead with the write lock algorithm then.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-03 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-16 16:50 [RFC PATCH 00/12] khugepaged: Asynchronous mTHP collapse Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] khugepaged: Rename hpage_collapse_scan_pmd() -> ptes() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 4:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-17 5:52 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-17 6:43 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-17 18:11 ` Zi Yan
2024-12-17 19:12 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] khugepaged: Generalize alloc_charge_folio() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 2:51 ` Baolin Wang
2024-12-17 6:08 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-17 4:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-17 7:09 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-17 13:00 ` Zi Yan
2024-12-20 17:41 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-12-20 17:45 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-20 18:47 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-01-02 11:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-17 6:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-17 9:06 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] khugepaged: Generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 4:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-17 16:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] khugepaged: Generalize __collapse_huge_page_swapin() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 4:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] khugepaged: Generalize __collapse_huge_page_isolate() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 4:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-17 6:41 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-17 17:14 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-17 17:09 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-16 16:50 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] khugepaged: Generalize __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed() Dev Jain
2024-12-17 17:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-18 8:49 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] khugepaged: Scan PTEs order-wise Dev Jain
2024-12-17 18:15 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-18 9:24 ` Dev Jain
2025-01-06 10:04 ` Usama Arif
2025-01-07 7:17 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] khugepaged: Abstract PMD-THP collapse Dev Jain
2024-12-17 19:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-18 9:26 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] khugepaged: Introduce vma_collapse_anon_folio() Dev Jain
2024-12-16 17:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-16 19:08 ` Yang Shi
2024-12-17 10:07 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-17 10:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-18 8:35 ` Dev Jain
2025-01-02 10:08 ` Dev Jain
2025-01-02 11:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-03 8:17 ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-01-02 11:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-18 15:59 ` Dev Jain
2025-01-06 10:17 ` Usama Arif
2025-01-07 8:12 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] khugepaged: Skip PTE range if a larger mTHP is already mapped Dev Jain
2024-12-18 7:36 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-18 9:34 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-19 3:40 ` John Hubbard
2024-12-19 3:51 ` Zi Yan
2024-12-19 7:59 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-19 8:07 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-20 11:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] khugepaged: Enable sysfs to control order of collapse Dev Jain
2024-12-16 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] selftests/mm: khugepaged: Enlighten for mTHP collapse Dev Jain
2024-12-18 9:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-18 9:50 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-20 11:05 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-12-30 7:09 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-30 16:36 ` Zi Yan
2025-01-02 11:43 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-01-03 10:10 ` Dev Jain
2025-01-03 10:11 ` Dev Jain
2024-12-16 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] khugepaged: Asynchronous " Dev Jain
2025-01-02 21:58 ` Nico Pache
2025-01-03 7:04 ` Dev Jain
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