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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] rework mmap-exit vs. oom_reaper handover
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:40:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e123109-fe7d-65cf-883e-74850fd2cf86@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180910151127.GM10951@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2018/09/11 0:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 10-09-18 23:59:02, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> Thank you for proposing a patch.
>>
>> On 2018/09/10 21:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
>>> index 5f2b2b1..99bb9ce 100644
>>> --- a/mm/mmap.c
>>> +++ b/mm/mmap.c
>>> @@ -3091,7 +3081,31 @@ void exit_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>  	/* update_hiwater_rss(mm) here? but nobody should be looking */
>>>  	/* Use -1 here to ensure all VMAs in the mm are unmapped */
>>>  	unmap_vmas(&tlb, vma, 0, -1);
>>
>> unmap_vmas() might involve hugepage path. Is it safe to race with the OOM reaper?
>>
>>   i_mmap_lock_write(vma->vm_file->f_mapping);
>>   __unmap_hugepage_range_final(tlb, vma, start, end, NULL);
>>   i_mmap_unlock_write(vma->vm_file->f_mapping);
> 
> We do not unmap hugetlb pages in the oom reaper.
> 

But the OOM reaper can run while __unmap_hugepage_range_final() is in progress.
Then, I worry an overlooked race similar to clearing VM_LOCKED flag.

> 
>>
>>>  	tlb_finish_mmu(&tlb, 0, -1);
>>>  
>>>  	/*
>>
>> Also, how do you plan to give this thread enough CPU resources, for this thread might
>> be SCHED_IDLE priority? Since this thread might not be a thread which is exiting
>> (because this is merely a thread which invoked __mmput()), we can't use boosting
>> approach. CPU resource might be given eventually unless schedule_timeout_*() is used,
>> but it might be deadly slow if allocating threads keep wasting CPU resources.
> 
> This is OOM path which is glacial slow path. This is btw. no different
> from any other low priority tasks sitting on a lot of memory trying to
> release the memory (either by unmapping or exiting). Why should be this
> particular case any different?
> 

Not a problem if not under OOM situation. Since the OOM killer keeps wasting
CPU resources until memory reclaim completes, we want to solve OOM situation
as soon as possible.

>> Also, why MMF_OOM_SKIP will not be set if the OOM reaper handed over?
> 
> The idea is that the mm is not visible to anybody (except for the oom
> reaper) anymore. So MMF_OOM_SKIP shouldn't matter.
> 

I think it absolutely matters. The OOM killer waits until MMF_OOM_SKIP is set
on a mm which is visible via task_struct->signal->oom_mm .

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-10 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-08  4:54 [PATCH v2] mm, oom: Fix unnecessary killing of additional processes Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-10  9:54 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 11:27   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-10 11:40     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 12:52       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-10 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] rework mmap-exit vs. oom_reaper handover Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 12:55   ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm, oom: rework mmap_exit vs. oom_reaper synchronization Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 12:55   ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm, oom: keep retrying the oom_reap operation as long as there is substantial memory left Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 12:55   ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: hand over MMF_OOM_SKIP to exit path if it is guranteed to finish Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 14:59   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] rework mmap-exit vs. oom_reaper handover Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-10 15:11     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-10 15:40       ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-09-10 16:44         ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12  3:06           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-12  7:18             ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12  7:58               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-12  8:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 10:59                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-12 11:22                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-11 14:01   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-12  7:50     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 13:42       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-13  2:44         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-13  9:09           ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-13 11:20             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-13 11:35               ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-13 11:53                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-13 13:40                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-14 13:54                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-14 14:14                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-14 17:07                         ` Tetsuo Handa

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