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From: "Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: "Harry Yoo" <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, "Dev Jain" <dev.jain@arm.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Qi Zheng" <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Meta kernel team" <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] memcg: use mod_node_page_state to update stats
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2026 05:58:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7df681ae0f8254f09de0b8e258b909eaacafadf4@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYQuj6Ot-JS4tXvY@hyeyoo>

> 
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2026 at 10:50:06AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 05/02/26 2:08 am, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> >  On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 02:23:54PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> >  On 02/02/26 10:24 am, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> >  Hello Shakeel,
> > 
> >  We are seeing a regression in micromm/munmap benchmark with this patch, on arm64 -
> >  the benchmark mmmaps a lot of memory, memsets it, and measures the time taken
> >  to munmap. Please see below if my understanding of this patch is correct.
> > 
> >  Thanks for the report. Are you seeing regression in just the benchmark
> >  or some real workload as well? Also how much regression are you seeing?
> >  I have a kernel rebot regression report [1] for this patch as well which
> >  says 2.6% regression and thus it was on the back-burner for now. I will
> >  take look at this again soon.
> > 
> >  The munmap regression is ~24%. Haven't observed a regression in any other
> >  benchmark yet.
> >  Please share the code/benchmark which shows such regression, also if you can
> >  share the perf profile, that would be awesome.
> >  https://gitlab.arm.com/tooling/fastpath/-/blob/main/containers/microbench/micromm.c
> >  You can run this with
> >  ./micromm 0 munmap 10
> > 
> >  Don't have a perf profile, I measured the time taken by above command, with and
> >  without the patch.
> > 
> >  Hi Dev, can you please try the following patch?
> > 
> >  From 40155feca7e7bc846800ab8449735bdb03164d6d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >  From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> >  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 08:46:08 -0800
> >  Subject: [PATCH] vmstat: use preempt disable instead of try_cmpxchg
> > 
> >  Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> >  ---
> > 
> [...snip...]
> 
> > 
> > Thanks for looking into this.
> >  
> >  But this doesn't solve it :( preempt_disable() contains a compiler barrier,
> >  probably that's why.
> > 
> I think the reason why it doesn't solve the regression is because of how
> arm64 implements this_cpu_add_8() and this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8().
> 
> On arm64, IIUC both this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8() and this_cpu_add_8() are
> implemented using LL/SC instructions or LSE atomics (if supported).
> 
> See:
> - this_cpu_add_8()
>  -> __percpu_add_case_64
>  (which is generated from PERCPU_OP)
> 
> - this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8()
>  -> __cpu_fallback_try_cmpxchg(..., this_cpu_cmpxchg_8)
>  -> this_cpu_cmpxchg_8()
>  -> cmpxchg_relaxed()
>  -> raw_cmpxchg_relaxed()
>  -> arch_cmpxchg_relaxed()
>  -> __cmpxchg_wrapper()
>  -> __cmpxchg_case_64()
>  -> __lse_ll_sc_body(_cmpxchg_case_64, ...)
> 

Oh so it is arm64 specific issue. I tested on x86-64 machine and it solves
the little regression it had before. So, on arm64 all this_cpu_ops i.e. without
double underscore, uses LL/SC instructions. 

Need more thought on this. 

> > 
> > Also can you confirm whether my analysis of the regression was correct?
> >  Because if it was, then this diff looks wrong - AFAIU preempt_disable()
> >  won't stop an irq handler from interrupting the execution, so this
> >  will introduce a bug for code paths running in irq context.
> > 
> I was worried about the correctness too, but this_cpu_add() is safe
> against IRQs and so the stat will be _eventually_ consistent?
> 
> Ofc it's so confusing! Maybe I'm the one confused.

Yeah there is no issue with proposed patch as it is making the function
re-entrant safe.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10 23:20 [PATCH 0/4] memcg: cleanup the memcg stats interfaces Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: use mod_node_page_state to update stats Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  1:39   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2026-01-29 13:05   ` Dev Jain
2026-02-02  4:26     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-02  4:48       ` Dev Jain
2026-02-02  4:54         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-02  8:53           ` Dev Jain
2026-02-04 20:38             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-05  5:20               ` Dev Jain
2026-02-05  5:45                 ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-05  5:58                   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-02-10  7:38                     ` Dev Jain
2026-02-10 16:29                       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-11  7:37                         ` Dev Jain
2026-02-11  8:53                           ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-11  9:24                             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-11 10:14                               ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-12  5:16                               ` Dev Jain
2026-02-12  5:14                             ` Dev Jain
2026-02-12  1:31                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: remove __mod_lruvec_kmem_state Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  1:46   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  8:23   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: remove __mod_lruvec_state Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  5:21   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: remove __lruvec_stat_mod_folio Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  5:41   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:59   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-11  0:59 ` [PATCH 0/4] memcg: cleanup the memcg stats interfaces Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  2:23   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  2:39     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  2:48       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  3:07           ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:18             ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:29               ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:05         ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  8:01           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11  8:36 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 16:45   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-12  2:11     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  9:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-11 19:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-11 19:34   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-15 19:27 ` Shakeel Butt

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