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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] treewide: remove GFP_TEMPORARY allocation flag
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:15:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ba2635d-68bd-ee1a-caa2-3ff571c7a3ee@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170728091904.14627-1-mhocko@kernel.org>

On 07/28/2017 11:19 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> GFP_TEMPORARY has been introduced by e12ba74d8ff3 ("Group short-lived
> and reclaimable kernel allocations") along with __GFP_RECLAIMABLE. It's
> primary motivation was to allow users to tell that an allocation is
> short lived and so the allocator can try to place such allocations close
> together and prevent long term fragmentation. As much as this sounds
> like a reasonable semantic it becomes much less clear when to use the
> highlevel GFP_TEMPORARY allocation flag. How long is temporary? Can
> the context holding that memory sleep? Can it take locks? It seems
> there is no good answer for those questions.
> 
> The current implementation of GFP_TEMPORARY is basically
> GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_RECLAIMABLE which in itself is tricky because
> basically none of the existing caller provide a way to reclaim the
> allocated memory. So this is rather misleading and hard to evaluate for
> any benefits.
> 
> I have checked some random users and none of them has added the flag
> with a specific justification. I suspect most of them just copied from
> other existing users and others just thought it might be a good idea
> to use without any measuring. This suggests that GFP_TEMPORARY just
> motivates for cargo cult usage without any reasoning.
> 
> I believe that our gfp flags are quite complex already and especially
> those with highlevel semantic should be clearly defined to prevent from
> confusion and abuse. Therefore I propose dropping GFP_TEMPORARY and
> replace all existing users to simply use GFP_KERNEL. Please note that
> SLAB users with shrinkers will still get __GFP_RECLAIMABLE heuristic
> and so they will be placed properly for memory fragmentation prevention.
> 
> I can see reasons we might want some gfp flag to reflect shorterm
> allocations but I propose starting from a clear semantic definition and
> only then add users with proper justification.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Yes, it's best we remove it.

Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-28 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-28  9:19 Michal Hocko
2017-07-28  9:52 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-28 10:27   ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-28 10:59     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-28 13:15 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2017-08-23 17:57 ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-25  6:35   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-25  7:28     ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-25  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-25 21:39         ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-26  4:11           ` NeilBrown
2017-08-28 12:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31  9:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-31  9:29                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-28 12:35           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31  9:10             ` Pavel Machek

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