From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce new .mmap_proto() f_op callback
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 23:58:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ab1743b-8826-44e8-ac11-283731ef51e1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1bf4b452cc10281ef831c5e38ce16f09923f8c5.1746040540.git.lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
On 30.04.25 21:54, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> Provide a means by which drivers can specify which fields of those
> permitted to be changed should be altered to prior to mmap()'ing a
> range (which may either result from a merge or from mapping an entirely new
> VMA).
>
> Doing so is substantially safer than the existing .mmap() calback which
> provides unrestricted access to the part-constructed VMA and permits
> drivers and file systems to do 'creative' things which makes it hard to
> reason about the state of the VMA after the function returns.
>
> The existing .mmap() callback's freedom has caused a great deal of issues,
> especially in error handling, as unwinding the mmap() state has proven to
> be non-trivial and caused significant issues in the past, for instance
> those addressed in commit 5de195060b2e ("mm: resolve faulty mmap_region()
> error path behaviour").
>
> It also necessitates a second attempt at merge once the .mmap() callback
> has completed, which has caused issues in the past, is awkward, adds
> overhead and is difficult to reason about.
>
> The .mmap_proto() callback eliminates this requirement, as we can update
> fields prior to even attempting the first merge. It is safer, as we heavily
> restrict what can actually be modified, and being invoked very early in the
> mmap() process, error handling can be performed safely with very little
> unwinding of state required.
>
> Update vma userland test stubs to account for changes.
>
> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
I really don't like the "proto" terminology. :)
[yes, David and his naming :P ]
No, the problem is that it is fairly unintuitive what is happening here.
Coming from a different direction, the callback is trigger after
__mmap_prepare() ... could we call it "->mmap_prepare" or something like
that? (mmap_setup, whatever)
Maybe mmap_setup and vma_setup_param? Just a thought ...
In general (although it's late in Germany), it does sound like an
interesting approach.
How feasiable is it to remove ->mmap in the long run, and would we maybe
need other callbacks to make that possible?
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-30 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-30 19:54 [RFC PATCH 0/3] eliminate mmap() retry merge, add .mmap_proto hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce new .mmap_proto() f_op callback Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:44 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-01 10:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:58 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-01 10:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 12:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-01 13:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 13:51 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-01 13:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-05 13:29 ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-06 10:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: secretmem: convert to .mmap_proto() hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vma: remove mmap() retry merge Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] eliminate mmap() retry merge, add .mmap_proto hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:29 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-01 10:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 14:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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