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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
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	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
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	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/10] Multi-size THP for anonymous memory
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 14:22:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a18b924-1012-4649-9289-ab5075eb7736@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d3457cd-5e3d-42a7-8113-545da646d7c8@redhat.com>

On 06/12/2023 10:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 06.12.23 11:13, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 05/12/2023 17:21, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 04.12.23 11:20, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> A new week, a new version, a new name... This is v8 of a series to implement
>>>> multi-size THP (mTHP) for anonymous memory (previously called "small-sized THP"
>>>> and "large anonymous folios"). Matthew objected to "small huge" so hopefully
>>>> this fares better.
>>>>
>>>> The objective of this is to improve performance by allocating larger chunks of
>>>> memory during anonymous page faults:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Since SW (the kernel) is dealing with larger chunks of memory than base
>>>>      pages, there are efficiency savings to be had; fewer page faults,
>>>> batched PTE
>>>>      and RMAP manipulation, reduced lru list, etc. In short, we reduce kernel
>>>>      overhead. This should benefit all architectures.
>>>> 2) Since we are now mapping physically contiguous chunks of memory, we can take
>>>>      advantage of HW TLB compression techniques. A reduction in TLB pressure
>>>>      speeds up kernel and user space. arm64 systems have 2 mechanisms to
>>>> coalesce
>>>>      TLB entries; "the contiguous bit" (architectural) and HPA (uarch).
>>>>
>>>> This version changes the name and tidies up some of the kernel code and test
>>>> code, based on feedback against v7 (see change log for details).
>>>>
>>>> By default, the existing behaviour (and performance) is maintained. The user
>>>> must explicitly enable multi-size THP to see the performance benefit. This is
>>>> done via a new sysfs interface (as recommended by David Hildenbrand - thanks to
>>>> David for the suggestion)! This interface is inspired by the existing
>>>> per-hugepage-size sysfs interface used by hugetlb, provides full backwards
>>>> compatibility with the existing PMD-size THP interface, and provides a base for
>>>> future extensibility. See [8] for detailed discussion of the interface.
>>>>
>>>> This series is based on mm-unstable (715b67adf4c8).
>>>
>>> I took a look at the core pieces. Some things might want some smaller tweaks,
>>> but nothing that should stop this from having fun in mm-unstable, and replacing
>>> the smaller things as we move forward.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks! I'll address your comments and see if I can post another (final??)
>> version next week.
> 
> It's always possible to do incremental changes on top that Andrew will squash in
> the end. I even recall that he prefers that way once a series has been in
> mm-unstable for a bit, so one can better observe the diff and which effects they
> have.
> 

I've responded to all your comments. There are a bunch of changes that I agree
would be good to make (and some which I disagree with - would be good if you get
a chance to respond).

I think I can get all the changes done and tested by Friday. So perhaps it's
simplest to keep this out of mm-unstable until then, and put the new version in
on Friday? Then if there are any more small changes to do, I can do those as diffs?

Thanks,
Ryan




      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-04 10:20 Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary anon large folios Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  0:58   ` Barry Song
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] mm: thp: Introduce multi-size THP sysfs interface Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  4:21   ` Barry Song
2023-12-05  9:50     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  9:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 10:50         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 16:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 13:18     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:56       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 11:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:22         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 11:25           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:44             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] mm: thp: Support allocation of anonymous multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  1:15   ` Barry Song
2023-12-05  1:24     ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 10:48       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 11:16         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 20:16         ` Barry Song
2023-12-06 10:15           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 10:25             ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 16:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 16:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 14:19     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 15:44       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:37         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:40           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 12:08         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 13:28           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 14:45             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 15:01               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 15:12                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] selftests/mm/kugepaged: Restore thp settings at exit Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 17:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] selftests/mm: Factor out thp settings management Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 17:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] selftests/mm: Support multi-size THP interface in thp_settings Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] selftests/mm/khugepaged: Enlighten for multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  9:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] selftests/mm/cow: Add tests for anonymous multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 16:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 19:30 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Multi-size THP for anonymous memory Andrew Morton
2023-12-05  9:34   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  3:28 ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 11:05   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  3:37 ` John Hubbard
2023-12-05 11:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 18:58     ` John Hubbard
2023-12-05 14:19 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-12-06 10:08   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 15:50     ` Kefeng Wang
2023-12-05 17:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 10:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 10:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 14:22       ` Ryan Roberts [this message]

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