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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/16] iommu/dma: use page allocation function provided by iommu-pages.h
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 22:59:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79c397ee-b71b-470e-9184-401b4b96a0d2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bDswtrqiOMt3+0LBb0+7nJY9aBpzZdsmrWRzy9WxBqKEg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2023-11-28 10:50 pm, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 5:34 PM Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2023-11-28 8:49 pm, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>>> Convert iommu/dma-iommu.c to use the new page allocation functions
>>> provided in iommu-pages.h.
>>
>> These have nothing to do with IOMMU pagetables, they are DMA buffers and
>> they belong to whoever called the corresponding dma_alloc_* function.
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> This is true, however, we want to account and observe the pages
> allocated by IOMMU subsystem for DMA buffers, as they are essentially
> unmovable locked pages. Should we separate IOMMU memory from KVM
> memory all together and add another field to /proc/meminfo, something
> like "iommu -> iommu pagetable and dma memory", or do we want to
> export DMA memory separately from IOMMU page tables?

These are not allocated by "the IOMMU subsystem", they are allocated by 
the DMA API. Even if you want to claim that a driver pinning memory via 
iommu_dma_ops is somehow different from the same driver pinning the same 
amount of memory via dma-direct when iommu.passthrough=1, it's still 
nonsense because you're failing to account the pages which iommu_dma_ops 
gets from CMA, dma_common_alloc_pages(), dynamic SWIOTLB, the various 
pools, and so on.

Thanks,
Robin.

> Since, I included DMA memory, I specifically removed mentioning of
> IOMMU page tables in the most of places, and only report it as IOMMU
> memory. However, since it is still bundled together with SecPageTables
> it can be confusing.
> 
> Pasha


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-28 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28 20:49 [PATCH 00/16] IOMMU memory observability Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 01/16] iommu/vt-d: add wrapper functions for page allocations Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 02/16] iommu/amd: use page allocation function provided by iommu-pages.h Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 03/16] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 04/16] iommu/io-pgtable-dart: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-29  7:49   ` Janne Grunau
2023-11-29 21:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 05/16] iommu/io-pgtable-arm-v7s: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 22:46   ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-28 22:55     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:07       ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-28 23:32         ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 06/16] iommu/dma: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 22:33   ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-28 22:50     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 22:59       ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2023-11-28 23:06         ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:08         ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 07/16] iommu/exynos: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 08/16] iommu/fsl: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 22:53   ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-28 23:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 16:48         ` Robin Murphy
2023-11-29 19:45           ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-29 20:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 20:44               ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 09/16] iommu/iommufd: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 21:59     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-30  0:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 10/16] iommu/rockchip: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 11/16] iommu/sun50i: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 12/16] iommu/tegra-smmu: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 13/16] iommu: observability of the IOMMU allocations Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 14/16] iommu: account IOMMU allocated memory Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 15/16] vhost-vdpa: account iommu allocations Pasha Tatashin
2023-12-25 16:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-26 18:23     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 20:49 ` [PATCH 16/16] vfio: " Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 21:36     ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 21:33 ` [PATCH 00/16] IOMMU memory observability Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 22:31   ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-11-28 23:03     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 23:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29  0:25         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-29  0:28           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29  0:30             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-29  0:54               ` Jason Gunthorpe

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